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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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I recently switched over to an OBD1 ecu because I will be going with hondata again soon in the future. (2000 cx hatch, 2000 b18c1, 2000 GSR ECU now OBD1 p72)

It seems that now at night I notice a dimming of my interior lights, and headlights at times.

Then for a while the lights will go back to the old brightness, and then back dim again. It seems like it could be throttle or rpm dependent, but I can't tell for sure. Seems more random to me.

I don't remember this with the OBD2b ecu. Is there something with the ELD or some difference between the OBD1 and obd2 ecu that could be causing this? I thought I remember reading someone saying you need to disconnect something from the alternator when switching to OBD1 and hondata?

I also get a strange idle that goes up and down until the car is fully warmed up.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Is there something with the ELD or some difference between the OBD1 and obd2 ecu that could be causing this? I thought I remember reading someone saying you need to disconnect something from the alternator when switching to OBD1 and hondata?
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yeap, poor conversion harness's can cause this situation. Its not a big deal, just the eld freaking out.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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You know of any fix to this? Replacing a wire in the adaptor harness perhaps?
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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i did the same swap and didnt have that problem....however i did need to change my ground on my IAB to a constant....
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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I had this problem when i went to hondata, Let me dig up my fix,

Actually what happens is the alternator turns off and on, I had a homemade harness and I tried a skunk2 harness, no difference, I had to cut a Wire to the alternator

Stay tuned and ill post the how to fix directions
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently switched over to an OBD1 ecu because I will be going with hondata again soon in the future. (2000 cx hatch, 2000 b18c1, 2000 GSR ECU now OBD1 p72)

I also get a strange idle that goes up and down until the car is fully warmed up.

Any advice would be appreciated. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I just swapped in a p72 OBD I ECU in my gsr and i also have the idle problem sometimes. It will idel so low sometimes that the car will turn off right away. I would also like to know what could cause this problem.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Ok, for the people who have the "power fluctuation" try disconnecting the alt c wire. By simply cutting it on the harness for me, fixed the problem altogether. Try at your own risk, make sure you figure out which wire alt c is. Ill try to give u guys more info later, but now im at a group meeting (and slacking )
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had this problem when i went to hondata, Let me dig up my fix,

Actually what happens is thetried a skunk2 harness, no difference, I had to cut a Wire to the alternator

Stay tuned and ill post the how to fix directions </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MwGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I just swapped in a p72 OBD I ECU in my gsr and i also have the idle problem sometimes. It will idel so low sometimes that the car will turn off right away. I would also like to know what could cause this problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have had this problem twice. Each time it happened I drove a short distance from work, and filled the car up with gas. I would start the car and it would idle super LOW, and would kill unless I kept the rpms up with the gas pedal. 2nd time was yesterday infact.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, for the people who have the "power fluctuation" try disconnecting the alt c wire. By simply cutting it on the harness for me, fixed the problem altogether. Try at your own risk, make sure you figure out which wire alt c is. Ill try to give u guys more info later, but now im at a group meeting (and slacking ) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Curious about what you mean by "alternator C" wire?
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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i believe there are two alternator signal wires connected to the ecu, one is alt f and one alt c. when i disconnected alt c wire, the problem went away for good.

I will dig up the pin location when i get home.

basically, on my car, 50% of the time when i was idling, the alternator would be off, and voltage would read 12 v, then when i would accelerate or if i was over like 3000 rpms, the alternator would kick back on and read 14 v.

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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Yea, that sounds alot like what I am experiencing.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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with Hondata, you can disable ELD within the program, solves the issue with no wire cutting
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VaporTrail &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with Hondata, you can disable ELD within the program, solves the issue with no wire cutting</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, too bad you and I didnt figure that out when I had hondata, eh john?
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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I got this same power fluctuation when i converted to OBD1 and i'd love to fix it...
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

haha, too bad you and I didnt figure that out when I had hondata, eh john?</TD></TR></TABLE>

on version 2.5 there was no option to disable the ELD. Your experience with your harness and other's like it lead Hondata to disabling it to improve functionality
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Wow...didn't think so many people had this problem. Guess I'm not the only one.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VaporTrail &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with Hondata, you can disable ELD within the program, solves the issue with no wire cutting</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW, I am having this issue ever since Hondata and I had no idea how to fix it except cut the harness wire. What is ELD anyway?

I just opened my rom and clicked the checkbox for Disable ELD. Saweet!!!

Thanks John,

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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow...didn't think so many people had this problem. Guess I'm not the only one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, same here. I would've posted about this same problem a while ago, but i thought it was just me b/c of my chip, ECU, or something.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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ok i looked it up, and i believe alt c is pin a16.

If anyone tries it, let me know how it goes,
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mase &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i looked it up, and i believe alt c is pin a16.

If anyone tries it, let me know how it goes, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mase, you running version 2.5 then?
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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i got the same problem.....gonna try cutting that wire.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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i used to run 2.5 back in the day, i then sold that turbo setup, bought a new setup and used the AEM EMS.

that car got stolen,

I drive a stock car now
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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marking......just in case i run into this too
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Flip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">marking......just in case i run into this too </TD></TR></TABLE>
me 2
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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So any update on if cutting the wire worked?
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