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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Default Honda OEM oil filters... SMALLER!

For those of you that do not know, Honda has redesigned their oil filters. This time they are smaller and manufactured by Fram in Canada. The new design is supposed to increase oil pressure, but how large of a roll will it play for us turboguys pushing out good amounts of HP?

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There is a link to a thread discussing the issue about a month ago. I wonder if running the s2k filter would be better? The main reason I am concerned here is for the turbo's oil seals.









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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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I was also interested in this. I went to get new filters a couple weeks ago to find that they were smaller. I don't know how much I like it though
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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I am interested as well. I had heard the S2000 filter will remain the same size.
I went ahead and bought the last 20 from a local dealership for $3.50 each.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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I remember hearing Art talk about this, why would we want to raise our pressure if it's fine....bump
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Has anyone actually put the s2k filters on their cars?? BTW: Those threads in your sig are classic!!
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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what i did.. a lill secret of mines is used a RSX oil filter on my b18b and it boosted up the oil pressure alot...

oh and high oil pressure is bad for turbo... i thought it would be ok so i did it but when i did it made oil come out of the seals. so not a good idea for turbo guyz just my .02
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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if u guys are interested in a larger filter than stock i found that the purolator 24458 is larger than stock piece
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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so just buying s2k filters will solve this little porblem?

or buying a non-honda filter....
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Just an idea Could we put some type restrictor in our oil feed to restrict some of the oil for a certain psi.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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I live in canada and I still get the Canadian OEM filters...are they supposed to be disappearing? I'm not having any problems getting them
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I live in canada and I still get the Canadian OEM filters...are they supposed to be disappearing? I'm not having any problems getting them </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, they are still OEM filters, but are smaller than the original filters that were being used.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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I use the Fram filters and they are the bomb. Fram makes good **** , dont know about the OEM (fram) stuff though. Just use the Fram dont know the PN# off hand though.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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fram vs. new U.S. filter:



15400-PT7-005 (made in Canada) - A little smaller in size and ligher than U.S.

15400-P0H-305 (made in U.S.) - This has been discontinued by Honda - and I can't think of a good reason they'd do something like that. I noticed cleaner oil and oil pressure seemed to stay higher with this one..



a comparison between the 2 - note how older U.S. filter is all metal



U.S. filter:


Canadian filter (came out a bit blurry but you get an idea.. comparison picture shows whats inside)




Modified by vtec.dc2 at 11:38 PM 10/21/2003
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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I just bought a few of the smaller ones myself. When the honda dealer brought them out, I almost told him I didnt want them when I saw how small they were. to their new desgin if its made by Fram and made of paper.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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ttt.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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Seriously I have been using the fram with no probs even on the race car. I just change it out often so I dont give a damn anyway.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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it has nothing to do with not filtering properly or changing it often, I am more worried about it collapsing and the motor staving for oil.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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i have been using mobile 1 oil filters with no problem, they are a bit pricey but they do the job without me having to second guess it oir worry about it.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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I did a search yesterday on this as this boggled me last time i sent my girlfirend to honda to pick up my filter, I was WTF is that Anyways in the other thread they mentioned that honda didn't change the filter for the s2000 and it is compatible with other year hondas Part # 15400 pcx-004, im going to get one tomorrow





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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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Wonderful, Fram and Canada...sounds like a quality filter

Haha JK. Got one a couple of weeks ago from the dealership. Only problem is I never got to drive my car with it.

Judging by the pics, the old design looks a lot nicer.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fram vs. new U.S. filter:



15400-PT7-005 (made in Canada) - A little smaller in size and ligher than U.S.

15400-P0H-305 (made in U.S.) - This has been discontinued by Honda - and I can't think of a good reason they'd do something like that. I noticed cleaner oil and oil pressure seemed to stay higher with this one..



a comparison between the 2 - note how older U.S. filter is all metal



U.S. filter:


Canadian filter (came out a bit blurry but you get an idea.. comparison picture shows whats inside)


Modified by vtec.dc2 at 11:38 PM 10/21/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

Those of you who still want the older US model Honda filter should stop buying OEM (we all know fram sucks, pictures prove it here). Filtech is the former manufacturer of the US made OEM filters. They are now under contract by Bosch to make their oil filters, and as such, is what I use. Autozone and many other places commonly sell these for 4 bucks each.

Oh and I knew and posted about the whole fram thing about a year ago.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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So this is the new honda oil filter? The one on the left?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fram vs. new U.S. filter:



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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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I've been buying bosch filters for about 2 years now. Last time I had to buy mobile one though...everyone was out of the bosch! Mobile one filters are just too expensive, about 10 bucks a pop.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VaporTrail &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Those of you who still want the older US model Honda filter should stop buying OEM (we all know fram sucks, pictures prove it here). Filtech is the former manufacturer of the US made OEM filters. They are now under contract by Bosch to make their oil filters, and as such, is what I use. Autozone and many other places commonly sell these for 4 bucks each.

Oh and I knew and posted about the whole fram thing about a year ago. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Yes i have a S2K filter on my teg and i have no problems, it was what the guy at the dealer told me to do since i have a turbo BTW i am using Royal Purple 5W30 oil if that makes a difference
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