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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Default how can you tell if a b16a2 has lsd

There is a guy that is trying to sell his b16a2 and wants to know if he has the lsd option on it? The only way I think it could was if it was the s4 tranny right? Well let me know how to tell. Thanks for the help.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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look through the diff. If you can see through it has an lsd.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Is it in the car still?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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If im not mistaking the tranny will have an LSD stamp on it right?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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Usually but the stamp can wear off. Also what if it has an aftermarket LSD.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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if its in the car... then seriously, do a small burnout... two black lines = lsd
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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Jack the car up put in neutral, spin the wheels forwards. If both go forwards at the same rate, then you have LSD.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Just drive it. Take a corner and hit the gas if the inside tire starts spinning there is no LSD. Right?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by King Tut33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jack the car up put in neutral, spin the wheels forwards. If both go forwards at the same rate, then you have LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If one goes forward and the other goes the opposite direction then you have LSD.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97itr86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If one goes forward and the other goes the opposite direction then you have LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope, both of mine go forwards at the same speed, and I DEFNITELY HAVE LSD.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Just do a little burnout like the guy said and count the lines.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by King Tut33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nope, both of mine go forwards at the same speed, and I DEFNITELY HAVE LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
In my R they went different directions.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just do a little burnout like the guy said and count the lines.</TD></TR></TABLE>my d series would do two wheeled burnouts no lsd....
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Put it on jack stands (stirty) and let out the clutch in 1st gear (It won't stall ) - Do both wheels spin? If so, it's LSD equipped.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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if you spin one wheel and the other goes the OPPOSITE direction, then you have LSD. If they both spin forward then you do not have it.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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That's why I say take a corner. The LSD is supposed to limit/eliminate the wheelspin if one wheel has traction and the other doesn't.

Was your D series boosted?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97itr86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In my R they went different directions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm, I just did axles awhile ago, and I remember spinning them to check that they were in right. I guess I can jack my car up again and make sure that both mine go forward. I was always told when they go forward at the same rate = LSD. If they do different ways or they don't go smoothly = Non LSD.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsiR20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its in the car... then seriously, do a small burnout... two black lines = lsd</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong.

Overloading an open diff will also leave two black marks.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by King Tut33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jack the car up put in neutral, spin the wheels forwards. If both go forwards at the same rate, then you have LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong again.

My ITR tranny doesn't do that. Spin one wheel, the other turns the opposite direction.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97itr86 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
In my R they went different directions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah mine go opposite directions, and I have looked through the transmission just for verification and it used to have the LSD stamp.

In gear they go the same direction.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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Put it in first and dump the clutch. Check burnout marks. Repeat if necessary.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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So what is the answer? Don't leave us hangin man

If you jack up and rotate an open diff the wheels spin opposite directions also.

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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Easiest way is to look through the differential.

LSD = nothing blocking your view through the diff (where the inner joints go in the tranny)

Non-LSD = you'll see a bar going diagonally through the diff.

Now if this is a stock 99-00 USDM Civic Si, then they NEVER came with LSD - NEVER.

That alone would tell me there's no LSD, unless someone claims they've added one.

Bait the guy by asking this:

"Hey man, so is the tranny stock? Is it a stock LSD tranny, or what?"

Don't ask him if he added an LSD, because that'd be an easy way to lie and simply say "yeah man."

All this jacking the car up, doing burn-outs, etc. is wrong. I've seen cars lay two black marks with stock DX trannies. I've spun wheels up on the rack at work and seen them both spin opposite directions knowing well that they wre non-LSD.

The only true way is to look through the diff.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96hb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put it in first and dump the clutch. Check burnout marks. Repeat if necessary. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's not always true...

my buddy has a stock '99 Si and when he did a massive burnout the other day, there were 2 equally black strips that lasted for 30 feet or so and both ended at about the same length. maybe within a foot of each other.

my B18C has an LSD and when i had it up on the lift a few months back, i was putting a new axle in and when i turned one wheel, the other wheel would turn in the same direction.

like B18C5-EH2 said... look at the differential. i made sure i did this before i swapped it into my car.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Default Re: how can you tell if a b16a2 has lsd (97itr86)

1.Jack the car up in the front
2.spin the wheels manually
*if the tires go different directions you have lsd.

1.jack up the car in the front
2.turn your car on.
3.throttle
*if the tires go forward at the same rate you have lsd

1.jack the car up
2. Then slap that foo for trying to
Sell you something not there.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tvr.blu.eg6^ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1.Jack the car up in the front
2.spin the wheels manually
*if the tires go different directions you have lsd.
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i'm 100% sure i have a factory LSD and when i spin one wheel in one direction, the other wheel turns in the same direction.
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