just wondering if i should get the new spoon header..i currently have the usdm mugen header, i was thinking about getting the mugen jdm header..but i do like the spoon.. considering that it makes power from 4,000 rpm and up..cuz every one knows our cars need that kinda power on the low end to. by the way to make thing a little less confusing i have the whole mugen i/h/e. but both headers are great in my opinion..just wanna know what you guys think...later miles

 

you don't like your current m00gen header?

 

no it is the bomb!! but i will be able to get more power out of a jdm type header

 

SPOON

 

I'm with Mike,

SPOON!!!!

Haven't had the Mugen but, my Spoon is great. I am very satisfied...

A.

 

SPOOOOOOOOOOOON

 

If I were you, I would get the JDM Mugen header and keep the Mugen theme goin'
I think it would better compliment your mugen intake and exhaust better then the Spoon would.

 

I am with Gotenk

MUGEN

 

i think we should all give our reasons why we prefer such and such brand over another...it might help...i would also like to know.

 

Well for me I chose the Spoon header because it is supposed to be the best All-Around header being a 4-2-1 hybrid design.

I am extremely pleased. Is it worth the $? Well for me Yes!

I also am looking for a catback exhaust. I have looked at the Mugen twinloop and also the Spoon Sports.

I would look at the mods that give the best gains. I would not care if I mixed and matched. Granted some stuff is tuned to go with other stuff but when it comes to catbacks, and we all know that there are only about 2-3 HP gains then, why not go with what you want and maybe just for sound and looks? Maybe a little of each JDM company would be cool too.

Just IMHO of course,

A.

PS again though I like Spoon


[Modified by 1GreyTeg, 4:16 PM 8/25/2001]

 

Have to give the Spoon unit the major improvement over the Mugen

 

Spoon has way more mid-range power over Mugen and the peak power for both headers are close.

 

I've had both the JDM Mugen 4-1 and now the Spoon 4-2-1 (which is barely a 4-2-1 more like a 4-1 IMO). And my conclusion is that although the Mugen is a little better in build quality, the Spoon has more available power and better tonal quality. Top end power is about the same for both.

 

I'm assuming you are talking about the JDM Mugen 4-1 that everyone buys, and then comparing that to the Spoon 4-2-1....why not compare like designs? Mugen does make a 4-2-1 design, and it absolutely kills their 4-1 all the way up to 7,750RPMs. That would make the comparison much more interesting, no?

 

Big Phat R: What didn't you like about the Mugen "tonal quality"?? Did is buzz or sound raspy or something? The reason I ask, is that I haven't heard anything but complete and utter smootheness from my 4-2-1... Is this an issue with all Mugen 4-1 headers, or did you just get a bad apple (not likely)?

 

Spoon 421 vs Mugen 421 (Gymkhana) .... I have install them both but the result is:

Spoon still has better mid-range and the top still Spoon has more power!!!

Mugen makes good quality header but they are mainly design for 'Sport driving' = stock engine. Spoon is design for more into tuned engines no matter hard tune or light tune.

 

i was talking about jdm..not usdm..i have the usdm mugen ../h/ it says in my post later

 

thanks guys for all your help!!..thanks big phat r for posting those pics for me...(mf10'syellowr) maybe ill just get both..but i have a pretty good amount of mugen and i am very satisfied with all my mugen stuff..later

 

some body tell me how to post some pics on this board!!