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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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After speaking to a fellow H-T member, I found out that he was adjusting his damping force the wrong way. So, Im doing this thread so noone else makes the same mistake.

1) The **** should be turned full clockwise(until you cant turn anymore)
That will put you at setting "0"

2) Turning the **** counterclockwise you should come to a good stop(since putting it a full clockwise seems to be at a 1/2)

3) Your settings begin from there, clicking couterclockwise, 1,2,3 etc...

NOTE- The settings DO NOT begin at full soft (all the way counterclockwise and clicking clockwise 1,2,3 etc...)

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Damping force adjustment on Tein type Flex(how to) (eg_nezay)

Here's a copy of our conversation. Long, but worth the read. I'm still scratching my head as to why the folks at Tein can't get their stories straight.

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(2:01 PM 8/7/2003) eg_nezay: Definitely was the problem, loose nut
BTW- What setting do you have yours set at for street?
I did 8 clicks from hardest point, seems to stiff for me for street use.


(2:43 PM 8/7/2003) Todd00: 8 clicks seemed too stiff? Are you from 0 to 8 or from all the way cranked stiff to 8 less. Adjustment range is from 0 to 16 starting at full loose. Anything above 16 will damage your shock.

(9:59 PM 8/7/2003) eg_nezay: yea, its from stiffest to softest clicks.
But, now that I drove it all day seems better for some reason(not bouncy), last night it was real bouncy(stiff).

(1:19 AM 8/8/2003) Todd00: Seriously, take them all the way back to the softest setting and go up from there. Teins have a bad habit of blowing if you crank them too much, even though the clicks go all the way up to 23 or so sometimes.

(3:17 AM 8/8/2003) eg_nezay: You got the clicks wrong y0.
You are suppose to start from hardest(stiffest) and click your way down to softest.
Yea, if you do it from softest to hardest, it goes all the way to 25. So, in your case(your way) if you go with the standard(what tein recommends, 8)you would be at 17(tein specs) and thats a no no. I hope you dont have them that way.

(12:55 PM 8/8/2003) Todd00: Full left is soft and full right is hard. I start at full left (soft) and go up 8 clicks from there. That's how Tein told me to do it.

(1:24 PM 8/8/2003) eg_nezay: Oh man, you are at 17! you are going to damage your damper.
That is the wrong way, its from hard to soft clicks.
So, start at full hard and click counterclockwise to 8(standard)
I dont know who you talked to but look in the manual, it even tells you there. If you dont have it, Ill scan it and send you a copy.
Also, if you want to call them here is the number (562)861-9161.

(9:57 PM 8/10/2003) Todd00: If that's 17 clicks then it's ultra soft. if I go up about 7 more clicks the shocks get firm as can be.
Let me ask you this: Do you turn your shocks clockwise or counterclockwise to make the shocks firmer?


(2:00 AM 8/11/2003) eg_nezay: You turn it clockwise to make them firmer.
Which way do you turn? You must be turning counterclockwise because it sounds like you never set them from the firmest setting. Meaning, when you install them you are suppose to turn it to the firmest(clockwise)untill you cant turn anymore. Then, you turn counterclockwise till you get to 8(tein specs)

(8:47 AM 8/11/2003) Todd00: Are you completely sure about that? If you turn full counterclockwise the car is very soft. Turn full clockwise and the car is very stiff. Every set of Tein coilovers I have had you start at full soft and go up. The teins will click to over 23 clicks full firm, but that does not mean that you run there there.

(2:02 PM 8/11/2003) eg_nezay: Here, I took a quik pic. You can also call Tein, since you dont believe me.
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(8:12 PM 8/11/2003) Todd00: I know what it says...but...you are intrepreting it incorrectly. Setting "1" (full soft) is when the **** is full counterclockwise and you can't turn anymore. Setting "16" (full stiff) is 15 clicks up. Call Tein and they will tell you exactly the same thing. When they say start at full stiff and go down, they mean 15 clicks up from full counterclockwise and goign from there. Perhaps it is the "engrish" translation, but I urge you to call Tein and get it straightened out because I spoke with someone there a while back and was told *exactly* what I told you. If you run the shock full clockwise, you will damage the shock. Your setting "8" is actually about setting 12 or 13 depending upon how many clicks your shocks has above maximum.

(10:08 PM 8/11/2003) eg_nezay: The one that is intrepreting incorrectly is you. Setting "1"is NOT one turn clockwise from the softest point.
"0" is at full stiff (turning **** until you cant turn anymore clockwise. So, "1" is one turn from "0" counterclockwise.
You start the count from "0" going counterclockwise, 1,2,3 etc....(from the stiffest point)
Who did you talk to at Tein? I urge you to call and talk to their main guy (Eppie) their driver and technician or Bryan or Phillip, if you still dont believe me.
I was just their today due to unexplained lower locking bracket noise. Which got fixed by them. Also, double checked how the settings work and which way to turn.


(12:28 AM 8/12/2003) Todd00: Forgetting the numbers--do you or do you not agree that full counterclockwise is soft and full clockwise is stiff? I was told, by someoone at Tein, that full left (counterclockwise) is where you begin your settings from. 16 turns up is full stiff from that point and you should not exceed the settings. Since it is a long distance call for me, go therew or call and see what they have to say.

(12:40 AM 8/12/2003) eg_nezay: Yes, I agree that full counterclockwise is soft and full clockwise is stiff.
I was told, by someoone at Tein, that full left (counterclockwise) is where you begin your settings from
That is wrong, I dont know who told you but its wrong. Its from stiffest( "0" ) and you go counterclockwise 1,2,3 etc... for your settings.
Since it is a long distance call for me, go therew or call and see what they have to say.

Like I said before, I was just their today(8-11) due to unexplained lower locking bracket noise. Which got fixed by them. We also went over on how to do the settings just to make sure. And the way Ive been telling you, is the right way(this is coming from their driver and main technician for their 350Z and Evo VIII).

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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You guys are going to confuse the hell out of everyone with that little conversation you two had.

Turn the **** all the way to the left (counter clockwise)= soft
Turn the **** all the way to the right (clockwise) = hard

Plain and simple.
If you want to try this out open you hatch and set the rear setting all the way to the left( counter clockwise) and then jump in the back and watch how your car bounces.
Then turn the **** all the way to the right ( clockwise) and then jump in the rear. It will not move or bounce. This shows you which way hard and soft are. Good luck.

In the legendary words " keep it simple stupid"
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 01:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are going to confuse the hell out of everyone with that little conversation you two had.

Turn the **** all the way to the left (counter clockwise)= soft
Turn the **** all the way to the right (clockwise) = hard

Plain and simple.
If you want to try this out open you hatch and set the rear setting all the way to the left( counter clockwise) and then jump in the back and watch how your car bounces.
Then turn the **** all the way to the right ( clockwise) and then jump in the rear. It will not move or bounce. This shows you which way hard and soft are. Good luck.

In the legendary words " keep it simple stupid"</TD></TR></TABLE>

they both agree on that. What appears to be in question is whether Tein wants you to use the 16 softest settings or the 16 hardest settings. It sounds pretty clear from Tein's instructions that they want you to use the 16 hardest settings (ie never use the 7 or so full soft settings) but if Todd00 is correct and Tein actually considers full hard to be 16 clicks from full soft than that's some pretty bad engrish on the instructions.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02-sir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

they both agree on that. What appears to be in question is whether Tein wants you to use the 16 softest settings or the 16 hardest settings. It sounds pretty clear from Tein's instructions that they want you to use the 16 hardest settings (ie never use the 7 or so full soft settings) but if Todd00 is correct and Tein actually considers full hard to be 16 clicks from full soft than that's some pretty bad engrish on the instructions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. And to make matters worse, someone at Tein is telling folks to start from full-soft and go up. It's just poor communication al the way around.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02-sir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

they both agree on that. What appears to be in question is whether Tein wants you to use the 16 softest settings or the 16 hardest settings. It sounds pretty clear from Tein's instructions that they want you to use the 16 hardest settings (ie never use the 7 or so full soft settings) but if Todd00 is correct and Tein actually considers full hard to be 16 clicks from full soft than that's some pretty bad engrish on the instructions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

See, thats the problem. People think that you start the settings at full soft and count your way up to hard. So it should be setting 1, 2, 3, 4... and the higher the number goes the harder it gets, right?
Well thats wrong.
Like I said before, your count starts at full hard ( "0" ), and you start counting from there 1,2,3....going counterclockwise.

Note-Tein standard setting is "8" from full hard(starting at full hard and going counterclockwise to "8").
I was told by Tein, its a nicer ride if you have setting "12" (starting at full hard and going counterclockwise to "12") for street and hwy use.
Leave the 8-1 settings for track.

edit-fixed typo.


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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly. And to make matters worse, someone at Tein is telling folks to start from full-soft and go up. It's just poor communication al the way around.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I still want to know who this person is so I can set him OR his employees will set him straight.

BTW- Todd, I talked to a few of Tein users today and they all did it they way I did it. Never counted from soft and up. Maybe that guys engrish confused you and to that d00de.
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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_nezay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Note-Tein standard setting is "8" from full hard(starting at full hard and going counterclockwise to "8").
I was told by Tein, its a nicer ride if you have setting "12" (starting at full hard and going counterclockwise to "8") for street and hwy use.
Leave the 8-1 settings for track.
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If you're trying to get to setting "12", wouldn't it be 12 clicks counter-clockwise since full hard is already at "0" rather than 8 clicks back? 8 clicks back would leave you only at setting "8".

I also talked to a Tein tech last week. He also suggested to start from full Hard (which is equal to setting 0) and start going counter-clockwise, so softing would be setting 16.


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Old Aug 17, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Draggin99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you're trying to get to setting "12", wouldn't it be 12 clicks counter-clockwise since full hard is already at "0" rather than 8 clicks back? 8 clicks back would leave you only at setting "8".

I also talked to a Tein tech last week. He also suggested to start from full Hard (which is equal to setting 0) and start going counter-clockwise, so softing would be setting 16.


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1)Starting at "0" going counterclockwise turning 12 times would make you at 12.
Starting at "0" going counterclockwise turning 8 times would make you at 8.
Whats the question?


2)Yes, if you read my thread, it tells you to start at full stiff and turn counterclockwise. Making your count start from there, 1,2,3 etc....
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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OKAY you guys are freakin confusing!!

I have the SS coils...I believe all of them adjust the same way correct??

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16
soft -------------------------------------hard

Its that simple correct??
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowCivicHmm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OKAY you guys are freakin confusing!!

I have the SS coils...I believe all of them adjust the same way correct??

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16
soft -------------------------------------hard

Its that simple correct??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope, thats wrong.
Did you read the thread?
You start counting from full hard counterclockwise, making setting "1" the stiffest point.
Like this;

16-15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
soft------------------------------------------hard


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Old Aug 20, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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aight I got it now....made no sense to me at first.....thanks for the help bro...
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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I am going to need pics...I have the TEIN type FLEX coilovers but i'm not exactly sure how to adjust them properly...can you send me the pics please?
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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You know where the **** to click is, right? All you do is turn that **** all the way clockwise until you cant turn anymore. From there, you start clicking and counting counterclockwise.
Its like this;

16--15--14--13--12--11--10--9--8--7--6--5--4--3--2--1
soft--------------------------------------------------------hard
______&lt;----clicking counterclockwise ______(full clockwise/all the way)


NOTE: Anything over 16 clicks will damage your damper.( Meaning 17,18,19 etc...clicks)

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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are you talking about the two green (i know the whole thing is green) discs that look like gears? that you use the adjustment tool that came with it? because i don't remeber hearing or feeling clicks when i turned it...but i may have done it wrong...and also there are 2 one ontop of the other...so which do i turn? and how do i lock it again once it's been adjusted?
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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we are talking ab out the strut adjustment for the damping setting not the ride height setting...
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Haha,, see this is the **** I was talking about.
Every thing is getting to complicated.

Just remember
Hard = clock wise
Soft = counter clock wise


Ok answer me one question eg, and todd.
For the ss or flex it says not to go past 16, so is it saying not to put the suspension on full hard all the time, or full soft all the time.


Because if what you guys say is true then it says having the suspension to soft will damage the suspension and having them on full hard will not damage them.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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you just had to come in mando and **** **** up huh??
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:00 AM
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**** **** up, no.. Get some information from all this mess. yes.

I just want to see what they have to say. I want to know which way would hurt the suspension. If we were to follow the way they explained to us how the numbers work, then having them to soft would hurt the suspension and having them on full hard or in thier words "1 or 0 " would be safe. I just want to get the right information.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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lol this is so confusing...lol..we need to create a sticky for adjusting the dampening on the Teins...lol
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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"If pics are necessary for people that are still confused, Ill provide some with requests."

can you post a pic of which *** you speak of please?
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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nevermind...i figured it out...just needed to actually look at the thing before i realized what you where talking about
however...how the hell do i adjust right hieght...that's what confused me
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RSXtypeS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you talking about the two green (i know the whole thing is green) discs that look like gears? that you use the adjustment tool that came with it? because i don't remeber hearing or feeling clicks when i turned it...but i may have done it wrong...and also there are 2 one ontop of the other...so which do i turn? and how do i lock it again once it's been adjusted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, those 2 brackets should never be touched, it can lower the car but, its not the correct way to do it. The lower bracket is the one you loosen up to lower the car.

You see the black lil cap on top of the piston rod? Take that cap off and youll see thats where you use the hex wrench they provided when you purchased your flex. Then, follow my instructions up above.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1nal zeros &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha,, see this is the **** I was talking about.
Every thing is getting to complicated.

1)Just remember
Hard = clock wise
Soft = counter clock wise


2)Ok answer me one question eg, and todd.
For the ss or flex it says not to go past 16, so is it saying not to put the suspension on full hard all the time, or full soft all the time.


3)Because if what you guys say is true then it says having the suspension to soft will damage the suspension and having them on full hard will not damage them.</TD></TR></TABLE>


1)Yes, thats correct BUT make sure you tell people to start from full hard(full clockwise) then work their way down counterclockwise.
You are confusing people by what your only saying, it makes them think they start at full soft(full counterclockwise) and work their way up, which is incorrect.

2)Not to go past full soft 16, which is equivalent of saying dont keep going to 17,18,19 etc....

3)Having them set at 16 or 1 will NOT damage your damper, only when you exceed 16. Meaning going past 16, for example 17,18,19, etc...
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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however...how the hell do i adjust right hieght...that's what confused me</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should have 2 seat locks(holds your spring) and 1 bracket lock(which prevents the whole shock from movement.
You first loosen the bracket lock with your key, that should make your whole shock moveable.
Now, all you do is turn your whole shock clockwise or counterclockwise for your right height.
When lowering it, your shock actually screws into your knuckle bracket(fronts) and into your lower bracket in the rear.
After you are done turning it, just make sure your bracket lock is tight. I gave the key 2 hits with a hammer.

Look in your manual for pics of the seat locks,bracket locks,lower brackets if you dont know what they are. Im at work and cant scan any pics , nor take any.
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