Would anyone know by chance if the 15" Volk TE37's will fit over the Mugen brake setup? I know the Realtime guys were able to fit some pretty decent brakes under those rims.

 

this is from the kingmotorsports website.

 

The Mugen system is a modified S2000 brake system - I doubt it would fit under 15" rims.

 

uh oh wes..what do you got hidden under your sleeve?

 

I think Realtime uses Brembos

 

Hey Phat R,
Do you have any more info regarding this? I'm curious as to what the modifications are?

Can I use rotors from a S2000 as a replacement rotor if I have the Active Gate system?

What pad fitment is used? Same as an S2000?

Thanks for any info.

-Geo

 

Just seeing if it is possible

So, no-one really knows for sure...

Hey EP, do you know anyone with a 15" Volk TE37? I will give King a call today to see if they know.

 

wes,

the AGBS won't fit under anything under a 15" wheel -- trust me, i've tried.

as far as replacement rotors go, the AGBS rotors are $299 each.

i can't recommend any third party replacement rotors since the point to the AGBS is to draw ventilation from the outside of the wheel and eliminating the need for brake ducts.

-erik

 

Thanks Erik... shoot, I was REALLY hoping they would fit.

 

Sorry that information is classified and on a need to know basis

j/k

There used to be a guy on the board named Erik from King Motorsports that provided all this info. Email King and they should be able to help you. I believe that the brake system is meant to work with the Mugen active gate rotors.

My question has always been - what do you do when the rotor is done? You can't buy extra rotors from King - or at least they don't list them. I was wondering if you could use an S2000 rotor instead (but that would be way more expensive than stock rotors).

The brakes on the R are more than adequate IMO for all uses. With upgraded pads and fluid, it's extremely hard to fade them. I would suggest working on ducting to cool the stock brakes (cheap) than working on a brake upgrade - unless you're doing it for looks.

 

Duh - I just read the above post from Erik

I guess there's a lot of lurkers on this board.


[Modified by Big Phat R, 9:01 AM 8/7/2001]

 

I would like to know the answer to your question also about replacement rotors.

As far as the stock brakes on the car, I think they could use some beefing up and some cooling. At the Expo, I went through a set of rotors and Hawk pads with Motul 600 brake fluid. I have NO problems with the fluid at all. For a daily driven car, there doesn't seem to be a good way to run cooling ducts to the rotors. I talked to Chris about his, but he said the difference it made was not noticeable. But, then again, he didn't have them shooting directly on the hub or rotor. If I remember right, there was a good 2-3" gap btwn the end of the ducting and the rotor.

I have yet to see a set-up that would work for a daily driven R that would work adequately on the track.


[Modified by White Dragon, 9:16 AM 8/7/2001]

 

if i can check out EPs brakes-mugen stuff- then i can look up to see what rotors are direct replacement for the mugen rotor. hit me up if you guys need help.

 

Another point of interest, brought up by teh point that the ABGS is a modified S2000 brake system:

If you go to the Spoon website (in Japanese) it looks like they do have a similar rotor for the S2000--where it draws air from the outside the wheel instead of the inside.

Wonder if it's the same thing...As far as price and availibility...I'm not sure.

But now that I think about it, at $299/ea, that's nearly $600 for the pair, which makes the StopTech rotors look like a bargain--may have to run those in light of the capital and maintenence cost of the AGBS...

-Geo

 

yes and if you are interested in stoptech rotors, hit me up and i will try to work out a honda tech descount.

 

Sounds Good

 

I can get Brembo replacement rotors for 100 bux CDN. $299 US is like 500 bux CDN per rotor. They would have to be waaaaaaaaay better rotors for that kinda money.

 

Contact http://www.idol-motorsport.com in Germany and get AP Racing 4pot caliper with 295mm disc. Will fit under 15 inch. no problem. Bit expensive but no more than Mugen or Spoon and definitly better hardware.
Stay cool.

 

There IS a 15" wheel that clears this setup, its a hart racing wheel.

Bump for an answer.

Edit: Verified. The TE37 DOES clear the Mugen Active gate brake system with the 11.8" rotors. With a 35 offset at least, it does clear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrakeExpert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There IS a 15" wheel that clears this setup, its a hart racing wheel.

Bump for an answer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

At least it got answered 6 years later, not specifically with which Hart Racing wheel model and offset. But I guess we have something?

 

Yeah sorry but I was told that its always better to answer an old post than make a new one, therefore we have less open-ended posts and more full of knowledge thats useful.

Its a CPF, the Racing hart 15" that clears the Mugen Active Gate brakes. Offset unknown, but those calipers are shallow, I'd assume most wheel offsets wouldn't be a problem, I mean there not like 28T brackets or something that stick out far.

 

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Its a CPF, the Racing hart 15" that clears the Mugen Active Gate brakes. Offset unknown, but those calipers are shallow, I'd assume most wheel offsets wouldn't be a problem, I mean there not like 28T brackets or something that stick out far.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure that info is correct, I've never seen or heard of a 5x114.3 Racing Hart CPF, only ever seen 4-lug in that wheel.

 

Yeah the picture I saw was of a 4x100 CPF. It had the mugen active gate system behind it though, may have been redrilled to 4x100 like I did.

 

I would assume spacers then.

 

they clear on +35 "15 TE's without any spacers
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1103038

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by t-blizzard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just making a post to show the people that spread myths around on honda-tech, I hate when people hear something from somebody and never tried it themselves. First hand experience is what I go by, not what other people heard from there brother's friend's friend. The wheels are 15" TE-37's with 35 offset, no spacer or anything was need. It was a very close fit I must say, but I remember AJ racing and King motorsports saying it was not applicable with 15" wheels, 16" at least. Oh well check out the pictures, they speak for themselves. No offense to the mentioned companies, just repeating what I saw and read. I just want to give correct information to people that have these brakes and are wondering about using 15" wheels.






Hope this helps people debating on getting these because they were told they couldn't use a 15" wheel. Super tight fit, but its fits. </TD></TR></TABLE>