I've read instructions manual and understand everything on how to install, but I have an alarm. I know i would need some type of relay.

Anyone has a diagram on what to do, or explain further details?

Thanks.

 

o.k. i think i'll try doing the following

http://www.pfispeed.com/images...1.gif

but where do i purchase this relay?

 

What kind of turbo timer did you buy? Do they not make a harness for your
car? What about the alarm - did you splice it into the car's wires, or use some
sort of harness?

That diagram is kind of funky, but essentially what you want to do is put the
TT in between the ignition wires (hence the question about a harness - it would
just snap right in here and would be an easy fix), so that when the turbo timer
is active, the ignition is still on. Not sure if that helps any...that schematic throws
me off.

 

I went to tweeter (car audio store in dallas) today and got a bosch SPDT relay. Solved my problem instantly : ) If you don't have a tweeter nearby try cartoys or ultimate electronics

 

so did that diagram work when installing the turbo timer?

what do you do with the blue wire coming from the turbo timer?

you cut the yellow wire from the igntion in half and hook up one side to the relay and the other side of the yellow wire to the other part of the relay?

should this work with any alarm?

 

okay...so on that diagram..you cut the yellow wire from the ignition in half and put them to the relay?

need help on this....

 

The relay normally keeps 87a and 30 connected until you give 12V's to 85.

So when you turn the Ignition on and send 12V to 85, the relay will open and connect 30 (Ignition to car and Turbo Timer) with 87 (12V to Battery and Turbo Timer).

That means that the Ignition wire for the Turbo timer will actually go straight to Battery.

But if you're giving 12V to Ignition anyway, couldn't you just have left the Ignition wire connected?

We only do this for applications when high current is required. This is a redundant relay setup and is actually doing nothing. When we've got a weak turn on trigger and we need to bump it up, we'd hook up a thicker power cable from a strong current source such as the Ignition harness, to connector 87. That way when the weak trigger is on at 85, the required current is sent to 30.

Make sense?

The original posted seemed like a question I hear often. Like, "When I have my engine running with the turbo timer, how do I arm the alarm system?"

If thats the case, ask me and I'll fill you in.

 

sent you a pm

so instead of running the green wire from the turbo timer to the relay, i just run it straight to the battery?

the problem that i'm having is that every time i hook up the red wire to a constant 12v, my lights come on as if i had the key turned foward, but i don't have the key in the ignition and the lights won't turn off unless i disconnect the red wire.

i hooked it up exactly like the diagram with the relay. when i turn off my car, the car stays on, but it never turns off.

so, should i not cut the ignition wire and run the green wire from the turbo timer to the battery, and then do everything else like the diagram has?

if you can, let me know what wire to run to on the relay or if i even half to use the relay.

i drive a eg hatch if anybody needs to know for the wiring.

thanks

 

okok... lets take it from the top... what specific turbo timer and alarm do you have?
Can you list the turbo timer's wire diagram?
After I get the TT's wire diagram, I'll try to do the install in my head and get back to you.
Then you can tell me if it worked or not.
If it didn't, we've gotta diagnose the problem.
You said you've got a '93 hatch right? Anything weird about it that I should know? Such as like a VAFC or a FCD or something else electronic?

 

i have a SARD turbo timer and my alarm is a crime prevention alarm. thats what it says on the alarm box. it was already on the car when i bought it.

i can't read the instruction for the turbo timer because they are in japanese.

okay for the turbo timer:

i have a green wire which should be the ignition wire
i have a red wire which should be the 12v constant wire
i have a blue wire which should be the acc wire
i have a black wire which is for the ground
i have a white wire which is for the e-brake
there's also a purple wire and another wire that i can't remember the color to.
the guy said he didn't use the purple wire, the white wire, or the other wire. the guy meaning the one i got my turbo kit from in which the TT came with it.

on the alarm...i noticed that there is a yellow wire spliced into the ignition wire which is black with a yellow stripe. the alarm arms itself when i take the key out of the ignition and close the door. it arms itself after like a minute passes by.

what do you think?

 

i hooked up the red wire from the TT to the white wire from the ignition which is the 12v constant wire

i hooked up the green wire to the black wire with yellow stripe from the ignition wires which is the main ignition wire.

i hooked up the blue wire from the TT to the yellow wire from the ignition

i hooked up the black wire to a ground

i have all sorts of problems when i hook it up this way. i had the same problems when i hooked it up with the relay. i tried hooking it up on my cousins hatch cause he doesn't have an alarm...and it did the same thing. am i hooking up something wrong here?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=578298

look at the pic in the thread...i hooked it up like that and it doesn't work for me.

i don't have a v-afc or anything like that

 

So.. if you don't use a relay, and hook up

green to blk/yellow (ignition)
red to white (12V)
blue to yellow (acc)
black to GND

What happens? What lights stay on? And the car stays on while the timer counts down but doesn't shut off?

 

If the timer is counting down, there should be a steady 12V shooting out of the green wire. When the counter shuts down, the green wire shouldn't read anything. Test this by unplugging the green wire from the blk/yellow while counting down. Put a test light to the green and see if the power goes away after count down. If it doesn't, the SARD timer is defective. Or the provided wire diagram is wrong. You might want to double check the diagram. Maybe give someone a call. Isn't SARD distributed through RS Akimoto or something like that?

 

if i hook it up with or without the relay..the same things happen:

my af guage,boost,and 5" tach light up, my battery light turns on, the seatbelt light turns on too. is as if you get into your car and turn the ignition foward with the key. the only thing is that the radio doesn't turn on.

i turned on the car even though these things lit up and when i turned off the car and took the ignition key out, the car stayed on. i only set the TT for 40 seconds and after 40 seconds went by, the car didn't turn off. i did notice that the TT never started to count down. it stayed at 40 seconds. it would just always show the volts diplayed.

 

what would be the cause of all the lights turning on when i hook up the turbo timer? right when i ground it, the lights come on. it happens when i put the red wire to a constang 12v place. if i put it to the radio fuse, it won't happen and when i turn on the car, the TT turns on as well, but when i turn off the car, the TT turns off too.

shouldn't it be that when i hook up the TT...no lights should come on until i turn the ignition key foward?

 

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Sounds as though the TT is sending 12V to the green wire as soon as you give it 12V to the red wire. The TT should only be sending 12V to green when the ignition is turned off.

Let me check and see if I could pull up a useful diagram and I'll get back to you.

 

could be...cause right when i touch the red wire to a constant 12v...the lights come on and won't turn off until i remove the red wire.

no matter where i put the red wire, as long as its a constant 12v...this happens.

what do you think?

this happened on the other car i put this turbo timer on to, so i don't think it has anything to do with the alarm.

 

ok... couldn't find any other diagrams for the SARD V-Turbo Timer. The other wires that you aren't using, is there any that that thicker than some? Kinda like the ignition harness wires under your dash?

 

no...they are all thin wires. there's three of them. i have the instructions, but can't read them cause they are in japanese.

 

try the blue accessory wire to blk/yellow ignition and the green ignition wire to the yellow accessory.

 

alright...i will try that tomorrow cause i'm at work right now and see what happens and i'll post here on the results or pm you on what happens with that.

thanks

 

hopefully its just a type-o in the instructions. Apex has a lot of those issues. Get back to me laters then.

 

well...the guy i got it from wrote down what color wire means what. he wrote blue is acc and green is the ign wire. don't know where he got that from.

i just figured it was correct cause of the pic in the thread i posted above.

i hope switching the blue and green wires around works too.

 

what color wire is for the tach? BTW&gt; it's easier to hook the tach wire up to the blue tach test connector under the hood on the right side by the shock tower than screwin with the distributor/coil... atleast to me. If you post a pic I can print it off and show it to my friend... see how much japanese he can remember.