..what does it take to mount an RSX Type-S Motor in an EG.

Buh-bye:



Lets talk. Mounts, or lack of, axles, wiring, etc.

Ryan

 

You are asking the wrong people.

The only responses you're going to get here are:

"Why get rid of the B20vtec when it makes more power"
"You're my hero Ryan"
"You're wasting your money, just keep what you have"

... and so on.

Honestly, I think there are probably two people on this board that might be qualified to answer that question.

I know Pacman (I'm pretty sure that's his SN) has on in his EK, which probably means he has what it takes to put it into an EG, but as far as how much he'll divulge, that's really on him.

Or Dr. Charles. He would probably know just as well.

Good luck mang,

btw, it's a waste of money

 

Now is your chance to prove this ******* wrong, guys

I think a few of them are going to surprise you, Flower. Plus, if we discuss it here, everybody is going to learn something. It doesn`t have to be a secret

Ryan

 

well I am going to be one of the first to stand up and let evry one know that I wouldnt even know where to begin I am having a hard enough time working the bugs outta my B16EK

 

From what I know, rear mounts bolts up, but the rest will need welded in.

 

******* do it bro
i know someone who is thinking of doing it into an EG for next seasons honda-challenge, who will remain anonymous

 

I assume that if your good with a welder, or you can make your own custom mounts, then the hardest part will be the tranny and wiring.

 

"Why get rid of the B20vtec when it makes more power"

On a serious note: I think the wiring will be the hardest part. Who cares what people say, go for it!


"You're my hero Ryan"

 

just wait until super street does a 'how to' on it....

j/k... good luck on it....

 

Ryan is my hero

 

Owner of Hasport has already done it. FYI

 

Keith, the owner of hasport, has not put a working k-series in an eg, but I`m sure they`ll be a big help.

 

Do you have any idea of how much the k20 motor weighs compared to a b16/18? The aftermarket power adders for these numbers add some serious power. That motor in a light eg would make a sick ride, H1 legal too. ..

 

Your best bet to get info will probably be to get a hold of "Pacman"
Or you can call Autolink which Dr Charles is working at right now.
If you need their number, lmk.
Other than that, I doubt youll get more info here.
Good luck

 

Do it. That would be badass. I would take k20 over crvtec anyday if the swap wasn't so difficult.

 

I really wish i knew how to put it in my 4dr. If i had the money I'll do it without looking back. The performance envelop is just beginning to open for the k20.

I wish i could say the same for the D17's though....
plastic intake mani's suck.

 

I just read this is for sale on a Toronto civic board that im on some times!


" $5500cdn obo

engine has been treated goody, oil changed every 3000km

the engine + tranny will be at the shop velocity.

100% guarantee nothing's wrong with it or u get ur $ back.

better if doing the swap same time at velocity, but pick up welcome!

the motor is around 20000km."


that is about $4,050 USD

"no crash yo, its off a new white rsx.

u can go check out in velocity, the engine still in the car.

the owner (my friend) orders the mugen k20a."

 

He already has the engine on its way I believe, did you read his question?
If you didnt , read again.

what does it take to mount an RSX Type-S Motor in an EG.
Lets talk. Mounts, or lack of, axles, wiring, etc.

 

When I first started, MOST B series swaps in EFs were welded in, total custom jobs. HASport's stuff wasn't even out yet.

No reason someone with a bit of experience couldn't set up the placement of the mounts in an EG and make it work.

What axles do they use for the EK swaps, and how does the wiring go in that? Should be pretty similar in an EG.

K series motors are lighter, have better powerbands, and seem to make more power altogether.

Go for it.

 

I believe axles will have to be custom, and wiring won't be easy unless your working with some kind of stand alone system, but that would be kinda pointless if your not running a real wild setup. Are you getting the whole front clip, cause that would be the best way to go because you would have the stock mounts to work with. I haven't had any experience with this kinda swap so everything I'm saying is just a common sense shoot from the hip idea.

 

Ryan, you have any pics of the motor in the EK and the type of brackets/mounts that had to be welded? I'm just curious of what kind custom mounts need to be made. I think wiring can be figured out, and cutting and splicing where necessary would work

**** if Signal Auto can stuff a damn NSX engine in a Civic, I'm sure we can all figure out how to do a RSX motor in a EG If I could find a cheap shell I would try to something crazy like this- Ryan you're my hero.

 

Ask the guy that has it done. Pacman, or the guy that helped get it done, Dr. Charles.

Custom everything, wiring harder than a bitch. You know more than I do. Cant pass on 13.2 street tires.

 

Wouldn't it be easier to put your body panels on that car...

j/k

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_nezay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He already has the engine on its way I believe, did you read his question?
If you didnt , read again.

what does it take to mount an RSX Type-S Motor in an EG.
Lets talk. Mounts, or lack of, axles, wiring, etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>I don't know if even RYAn is crazy enough to order a motor and not know if it is feasible to swap in the eg. Are you ryan? Don't tell me you ordered/bought a K already you crazy guy? Please tell me you DID. If anybody can do it, you can. your MY HERO Ryan! .

 

Lets kinda break this down using the K20 EK as my example...

Mounts: Mounts are going to take a lot of inginuity and creativity. The mounts that were used in the EK were stock D-Series mounts that were fabbed up with different brackets and such to allow the K-series to sit in place. If you take a look at the engine bay of the EK, the motor sits all the way to the left, about an inch or less away from the fender well with the tranny on the right. Not sure about the space/capacity of EG engine bays, but this may require some cutting.

Axles: Custom axles are needed for this swap. There aren't any (from what I know) companies who have made axles for this particular swap...yet.

Tranny Issues: Note that the K20 tranny is not your regular hydro tranny, it is a cable tranny. The stock hydraulic lines that come on cars equipped with hydro trannies will have to be taken out and replaced with custom brackets, wires etc. The shifter is also very long and will have to be cut down and aligned to the center console.

Header: This is yet another custom piece. The header on K-series motors is on the back, opposite of the B, D and H-series motors which have them on the front of the motor. This is one of the attributes that makes the K-series so efficient, there are minimal bends in the headers, which also makes them easier to fabricate.

Wiring: This is THE hardest part of the swap. You will need a very talented and PATIENT SOB to take care of this. Tons of wires must be cut, spliced and soldered in order for it to work. Even if you do find wiring schematics, which is mission on its own, it is still a monumental task.

I probably left out a few things like the work with the fuel lines and other minor details. If there was someone on this board who has the contacts, knowledge and capital to make this happen, it would be YOU Ryan!! But be smart and think like a business man! If you get someone to fab up the mounts and the rest of the custom metal work, get that **** patented and start making some money. (I expect 20% of all profits by the way)

BTW: Whats going to happen with the motor thats in the EG right now? Planning on selling it?