what would you consider a poormans type R

want your opinions and view on this subject..

 

any integra that isnt an R, jk
um you could do all the exterior body work, wing, front lip, shaved side moldings etc, and then maybe a GSR motor with red vavle cover. i dont know

 

It's a GSR or GS/LS/RS/SE that has the type R apperance on the outside and if you want partial inside with a ok engine

 

R you talking about motor or exterior?

 

just got a response this is the set up

b18c1 block

type R pistons

b16 head

is this a poormans type R

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N T R Z R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">poormans type R
engine wise sorry..
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someone posted this set up

b18c1 block

type R pistons

b16 head.

is this a poormans type R

 

i dont think that setup alone would run w/an R, at least .5 - 1 second slower

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N T R Z R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just got a response this is the set up

b18c1 block

type R pistons

b16 head

is this a poormans type R
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yes, that is what most people call a poormans type R setup.

 

i can't believe no one answered the question yet. cheeewww

ok.

Poor man itr is

GSR block and B16 head mated together.
You can put any high comp. pistions you like.

This is a very nice setup, which i plan to do in the long run with my car.

 

i thought he was talking about an Ls/vtec??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaiphob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought he was talking about an Ls/vtec??</TD></TR></TABLE> that is more like a poorman's gsr.

 

Why is a B16 head better than a B18c head?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why is a B16 head better than a B18c head?</TD></TR></TABLE>This has been long debated, and each head is good in its own right. Minus internals, B16/B17 heads are identical to ITRs, although some say the ITR head is hogged out a little more, but I'm not sure if that's fact. The B16 heads are generally more available and cheaper. Besides, wouldn't a GSR block and a GSR head just make a GSR motor?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaiphob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought he was talking about an Ls/vtec??</TD></TR></TABLE>

ls/vtec poorly built
is cheap but it will not last that long
but
it will take a great ammount of money to built a good one..
its almost like buying a type R

but the
b18c1 block from 600-800 $$$
b16a head from 300-600
and you dont need to change any internals to the block..

 

a real poor mans type R that will run a type R is:

b16 head,
jdm itr pistons
b16 or itr tranny.

its all in the tranny!

-ryan

 

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its all in the tranny!

-ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>

word-

 

so what matters its how much of that
HP
you put the ground...
is that what you are trying to tell me..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by francisco flores &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what matters its how much of that
HP
you put the ground...
is that what you are trying to tell me..

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Yes.

 

poor and R don't belong in the same sentence.

 

B18C1 block, B16 pistons, B16a head = 11.1:1 CR
I don't know if its worth upgrading to a PR3 head if you already have a GSR head. Might as well just get a Skunk 2 manifold and bigger pistons. This will probably yield you the same numbers. The GSR head(P72) has a small combustion chamber that is .2 CR higher than a B16a(PR3) head. Its really preference, I went with a PR3 head because I already had it, I just added a bottom end to the mix. Works very well, and is the closest thing to a true honda motor as far as hybrid motors are concerned, IMHO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Threatcon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> that is more like a poorman's gsr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lmao

 

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HAHAHAHAHA
you deserve a I'm gonna tell all my buds this one

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Threatcon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> that is more like a poorman's gsr. </TD></TR></TABLE>

even though it would cost more than the price difference between an LS and a GSR?