what would cause this, i know the MAP could but i tried another and it still runs at high loads. what else would tell the computer to run the car at high loads (tell it to give it more fuel - alot more fuel) at idle it only needs 10points of fuel but it was running at like 170points, can you say rich) thanks

 

check these things you may have to replace or check. I should know i have the same ****** problem. O2 sensor,pcv valve,throttle position sensor,idle control valve ,idle speed sensor,and idle air adjustment the little screw thats on the throttle body. If you really want to check it out take it to the dealer and go for a diagnostic.

 

where is the idle speed sensor? i have yet to check the TPS and o2 sensor. Im going to check all the electrical **** first, im guessing thats the problem for sure. thanks for the info. anything else would be great

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=521360
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