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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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Default New intake mani for TypeR/B16/17 heads, pretty big claims........

At the IAS show, I stopped by the AEBS booth, one of their mechanics, Roger, was there answering questions, and showed us a new intake manifold they were working with. Produced by Professional Products, they had a dyno sheet showing a huge increase in power/torque on a stock motor. JDM TypeR baselined 168hp, 116.4 tq w/Greddy catback, and with the Typhoon mani, 184.6hp, 131.0 tq peak at 8k. The other suprising thing is that it made power/torque in the midrange as well, and never fell off. I've
never heard of Pro Products, wondering if anyone else has info on this mani.

This is info that I received at the show along with a dyno sheet and flyer (sorry, no scanner ), I'm just sharing info on the product, no flames please, about how one bolt on can't make that much power w/out tuning, this is what they're advertising/claiming, I'm sharing/looking for more info

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http://www.professional-products.com/

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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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looks interesting... a little bling bling .. but if it can truly show such a vast improvement in midrange/top end power with out any mods beside the exhaust and possible open air element it can be the next big thing.. did the dyno say what was modified on the engine besides the manifold and exhaust?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Actually, that's the thing that gets me. I asked Roger how much, and he said it's cheaper than a JDM TypeR mani from the dealer. If that's the case, and this manifold really works, they're going to sell quick.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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let's hope for the best.. and hope they offer a non-polished unit good find though
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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i looked at the site and there are no prices, but the descriptions says you can get this mani for cheaper than the jdm itr one...
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Default Re: New intake mani for TypeR/B16/17 heads, pretty big claims........ (rodrez)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> </TD></TR></TABLE>


Nothing nicer than polished metal. Probably not going to sit well with race-r's.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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I doubt that all of them are going to come polished. Costs too much money.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Green R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I doubt that all of them are going to come polished. Costs too much money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They're offered in polished, part #59000, or Satin (dull silver) part #59001.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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If the claims are true and have a dyno chart to prove it, then I will sell my Skunk2 for one of these
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay heavy. wonder if it really is
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hanson said &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay heavy. wonder if it really is</TD></TR></TABLE>

Naw, I picked it up at the show, felt average. I didn't notice the bottom though, the website says there are nitrous bosses underneath, didn't even notice them. Not that I would use them, but interesting.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Naw, I picked it up at the show, felt average. I didn't notice the bottom though, the website says there are nitrous bosses underneath, didn't even notice them. Not that I would use them, but interesting. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's good to know. it would be a shame to create such a power adder that weighs a ton.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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Default Re: New intake mani for TypeR/B16/17 heads, pretty big claims........ (hanson said)

i will probably be flamed like **** for this one, but hell, i am gona ask anyways. Alright, now i heard a few guys with sohc civics at a local meet talking about getting different throttle bodies, and intake manifolds. Now what i want to know is, what kind of throttle bodies and intake manifolds can us SOHC ppl use, and what kind of gains should be expected from doing so . . PLZ FEEL FREE TO FLAME, BUT GIVE ME SOME INFO ASWELL ! ! !
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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I'll pass along this little tidbit of background on Professional Products. They produce chinese knock-off manifolds. They used to be warehousers for the major labels, like Edelbrock and Holley, and were tired of not making enough margin off selling their product, so they copied the Edelbrock and Holley stuff and made it overseas, and claim that they make more power than the ones they copied.

There has been a lot of **** being thrown around between Professional Products and the other manufacturers. With even the big guys trying to get the copycat companies to not be able to show product at SEMA shows.

I looked at some of the intake manifolds Professional Products had on display at the SEMA show in Vegas. The worst quality I ever saw. Ports looked bad, and the manifolds were not even clean! Worst of all, the ones I did look at, their attempt at tapping a hole even failed, as the tapped holes to hold down a carb looked like a sprial scratch down a oversized hole!

Well, thats my rant. I personally wouldn't buy their product, and those power claims seem far fetched to me! They had an advertisement on Speed Options and said they sell the manifold for $160 and $200 polished.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Thanks for the info Marauder , I had never heard of them in the past, and didn't know anybody with info on them. It's weird, cause the manifold at the show seemed decent, didn't see anything cheap about it, but maybe that was just their "show" model. If your info is correct, I'm not sure why Ben/AEBS would be backing their product. Strange, anybody else have info on Pro products, or the Typhoon mani?
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Maybe AEBS cleaned up their manifold and that's why they are selling it???
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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From what I've read AEBS has a decent rep. I wouldnt have thought that they would risk it if the product wasnt the real deal???
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16a4me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I've read AEBS has a decent rep. I wouldnt have thought that they would risk it if the product wasnt the real deal???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very true. I know a few of their mechanics, and they do quality work. To be honest, when I saw the flyer on the mani, I thought it was a gimmick of some kind, but they were standing by it, said the testing was legit, same car, same day, same dyno.
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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WOW good info...i sure hope someone gets one soon and dyno's it for the H-T crowd Hey maybe someone should volunteer
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll pass along this little tidbit of background on Professional Products. They produce chinese knock-off manifolds. They used to be warehousers for the major labels, like Edelbrock and Holley, and were tired of not making enough margin off selling their product, so they copied the Edelbrock and Holley stuff and made it overseas, and claim that they make more power than the ones they copied.

There has been a lot of **** being thrown around between Professional Products and the other manufacturers. With even the big guys trying to get the copycat companies to not be able to show product at SEMA shows.

I looked at some of the intake manifolds Professional Products had on display at the SEMA show in Vegas. The worst quality I ever saw. Ports looked bad, and the manifolds were not even clean! Worst of all, the ones I did look at, their attempt at tapping a hole even failed, as the tapped holes to hold down a carb looked like a sprial scratch down a oversized hole!

Well, thats my rant. I personally wouldn't buy their product, and those power claims seem far fetched to me! They had an advertisement on Speed Options and said they sell the manifold for $160 and $200 polished.</TD></TR></TABLE>


that is so true, actaully, they make more than just manifold copy's as well. from t/b's to fuel pressure regulators, etc. Aerospeed, APC and little offbeat companies have used them to label there own products. they have been in the business for some quite time now.

just my .02 cents

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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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Hmmm, now I'm really wondering what's up with this manifold. I wonder if AEBS knows about Pro Products past.
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 03:34 AM
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hmmm, i don't know why Ben would back their products if they actually do have a shitty rep either. the work from his business is pretty top notch and i'm pretty sure he wouldn't want his rep smeared by a company like that.
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Old Apr 30, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch4urSnatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm, i don't know why Ben would back their products if they actually do have a shitty rep either. the work from his business is pretty top notch and i'm pretty sure he wouldn't want his rep smeared by a company like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, and it was actually tested by AEBS, on their own dyno, very strange
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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*back from the dead*

did anyone ever find more info on this product
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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my friend jon put one on his 91 integra with a b16.. he had to get a different fuel rail because it didnt fit and it didnt have any place for the cold idle valve(somthing like that).. it was a pretty big PITA!! because it didnt say you had to do that.. and he said he didnt really notice much &gt;&gt; my .02¢
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