With all of the talk about the cutting of the rear plastic pieces... I decided to post some pics of my boo-boo.

See...
The way "not" to cut the plastic...



This is the way...



A different view of the bar...



http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292517111

Willie
-who likes pics.... jujuju

 

I ordered the bar from King, is install and look for the Mugen the same?

 

If you ordered the Mugen bar the install is different. Take the necessary measurements and then take the rear quarter panels out of your car and do the cutting with a razor knife. Score the plastic and then bend it to remove it. That will give the cleanest cut.

That is what I did on my ITR and it worked well.

A dremel tends to leave rough edges.

-kenji

 

what happened on the passenger side

 

I g00fed.... I cut it the size of the whole template instead of the correct way.

Willis

 

The panel to replace that only costs about $12 from Acura. I know because I broke the #$@#$ tabs on mine trying to remove it to reinistall the bar after Nationals.

 

What did you guys use to cover the edges after you cut them?

 

That little piece of rubber trim (C-channel) came with the bar.

Willis

 

Did you notice and major handling improvements???

Indy

 

Not yet... I have not been able to push the car hard.

I will be attending a driving school next month. I will drive with it hooked up and then unfasten it to see if there is a different feeling. I do not think the improvements will be noticed as much on street tires. "R" compound tires would stress the car a bit more therefore showing the differences better.
I will also try to rig up "movement marking device" that will "hopefully" show movement. I will leave one side hooked up, and release the other. Have some sorta marking device that will show max movement in both directions.

Will

 

You don't need to remove the panels for the mugen bar. Just use a Dremel. It comes with the rubber trim so you're not going to see the cut anyways.

 

hey great idea Willard....... i too want to see how much it moves if any. Let us know the results.

 

Butt dyno wise - I noticed more tire squealage from the back end with the bar during very hard street driving (there is a street in front of the building I work in that is essentially a giant decreasing radius sweeper - and it is VERY wide. Since my building is the only one, you can look out across the grass "apex" of the corner to make sure there isn't any other traffic/children/whatever to hit and let it out if it is clear). But that have just been me trying to find some improvement. I plan to take it in and out a few times at the Expo to get a better idea of whether or not it is really helping.

- looking forward to Williards results!

 

I like to use the clovers at Alma and Jupiter using GWB for the straits. It's like a free race track! No one ever there. Well maybe not any more

Those bars seem to have a problem. The brackets are so long and thin looking. They use fasteners at the stress points. Are they rigid enough???


[Modified by 01PYtr1092, 10:04 AM 6/23/2001]

 

Yes, I have heard of struts being torn apart and whatnot. So please let us know how they handle on intense driving...maybe wont happen right away..anyone else hear about them tearing off??

Indy

 

hahaha, sorry willard i just find that hilarious. looking at two different sized holes. haha it just looks wayyyyyyyyyy out of place. well anyways, at least you have the rear strut and i dont looks nice

 

Digital-R,

For the Mugen bar install, the good news is you won't have to cut those covers at all.

The bad news is that you will have to cut some pieces of the actual plastic trim below the covers because the mugen bar is much more beefy and goes straight across from the attachment points. I'd suggest the entire Mugen kit, btw. Sway bars and upper strut tower bars together.

 

I did get the Mugen Lowdown to go with the bar...maybe next week I will finish it up with the sway bars.

 

Willard,

can you scan the template ? I somehow lost the template and still have mine uncovered,...

if anyone else has a template to cut the cover panel, please either post it or email it to me

arsumirat@hotmail.com

tia

 

give me a second to scan the templates and directions, they will be up on the site in my sig (in the mods section) in a few minutes, and i'll post here when i'm done

 

Directions also scanned, up on our site (or go to http://itr.wilkerstaff.com/sjdmrstbdocs.html if you're lazy.


[Modified by Aleph, 10:30 PM 6/23/2001]

 

where can i get a rear bar for my type R here in the silicon valley?