The car will be autox and road course built.

I know it will be a PITA to put the ABS system in, but what's the downside of it?

Anyone on here done it before?

Thanks.

 

is it even possible? what exactly needs to be done?

 

Simply put, No.

Its such a samll light weight car you would be just adding extra weight and ABS for a crx/civic would be pretty pointless.

 

Since it is going to be a PITA dont do it... point given.....

 

It'll get the type R motor (mildly built), and tranny so it'll have the power. It'll also get gutted, so the weight shouldn't matter too much... but we all know abs is better than any drivers' foot. period.

It hasn't been done before, I take it? Hrm.....

 

ITR ABS. I have never seen before. yes your right. But some SiR's in Japan had it as an option and it wasnt that great. Go ahead and do it if you up to it. Tell us how it works out.

 

It would not be an easy swap, but it could be done. Unfortunatly I am not familar with the honda abs system. But since you would be doing the 5 lug conversion then you would already have all of the wheel sensors at all four coners.
Now the hard part. You would have to put the control unit in, ie cut the hard brake line near the master cylinder and and attach them in and out from the controller. I suggest that you use the master from the itr as it would make the job a little easier. Attaching the cars hard lines to the controller seems like it would be the most difficult part of the swap b/c you need to be competent at cutting and flaring the lines and bending if neccisary.
From this point I am fuzzy, I dont know if the honda abs computer is inside the ecu or if it is a standalone unit like other manufacturers. IF it is stand alone then you should just be able to run power then plug it into the control unit and run the other wires to the wheel sensors. If the abs system is inside the ecu, you would have the best luck just wiring in the entire itr harness into the car (ie from front to back). That amount of wiring takes a while, but I have seen it before.
Hope this gives you some sort of idea.

Edit*
There might be one problem though with the abs on an EF though, remember the abs unit for the itr is designed for that car specifically, with respect to weight and handeling characteristics. This is the only possible downside I can think of at the moment, in the end it may not be a factor though.

 

Update, since you guys kept it going:

ABS is in the car.





The ABS unit is somewhat standalone, as it come in the itr in the right rear under an interior panel. It has been mounted in that same location in my 91 si now.

As for the hard lines and Master cylinder, wheel sensors, etc: the abs unit and hard lines, and everything else came from my type R donor. I don't know if it completely works yet, because I haven't tested it out..... I will continue tweaking and testing till it does work though. The weight is negligible, imho...

 

Black R, I would love to get a chance to see that. I also live around ATL, hopefully I will see you around at some point.

 

hey good luck man

 

drag that to nopi, and lets see it!

 

It will be in the burnout contest at NOPI.

 

there actually is a guy up here that has EF with c5 motor, trans, cluster, the works. (dont ask me how he made the cluste fit, but i did see it with my won eyes) i think he was using the abs system as well.

 

all i have to say is ****** WOW atta baby....now if you will fly out to cali and do the same to my car that would be mutch apriciated

 

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that is probably mackymcg. he converted his car over to the type r wiring and like you said has the c5 motor, trans, cluster, etc. that car rips!

 

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but we all know abs is better than any drivers' foot. period.

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actually, buddy.. a lot of RX7 drivers complain that as the system heats up, abs kicks in more an more when it's not needed.. same with the subaru drivers.. therefore, many people choose to forgoe abs.. there are many types of ABS, some are stupid so in that case a driver w/o abs can be better than a driver with..

besides, it's just one more aid to take the fun away from driving.. like TCS and ASM.. and auto trannies... and power windows, power door locks, power sunroofs, heated seats, power seats, power steering, air conditioning... whatever...

hope it works well for you!

 

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actually, buddy.. a lot of RX7 drivers complain that as the system heats up, abs kicks in more an more when it's not needed.. same with the subaru drivers.. therefore, many people choose to forgoe abs.. there are many types of ABS, some are stupid so in that case a driver w/o abs can be better than a driver with..

besides, it's just one more aid to take the fun away from driving.. like TCS and ASM.. and auto trannies... and power windows, power door locks, power sunroofs, heated seats, power seats, power steering, air conditioning... whatever...

hope it works well for you!</TD></TR></TABLE>

tru. but subaru abs just plain sucks. it realy is horrile. itr abs is realy good. and this sint just cause i own . i have been known to borrow a subaru or 2 for autocross

 

Not worth it IMO, light car, plus, replacing wheel sensors = $$

 

much props to a guy who did somthing someone hasn't or isn't done much. cuz of people like you the import world is where it is at . just think if the first person to swap a b-series decided not to because noone else had done it yet. we would be behind where we are now not much but behind.

way to take the unbeaten path

 

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actually, buddy.. a lot of RX7 drivers complain that as the system heats up, abs kicks in more an more when it's not needed.. same with the subaru drivers.. therefore, many people choose to forgoe abs.. there are many types of ABS, some are stupid so in that case a driver w/o abs can be better than a driver with..

besides, it's just one more aid to take the fun away from driving.. like TCS and ASM.. and auto trannies... and power windows, power door locks, power sunroofs, heated seats, power seats, power steering, air conditioning... whatever...

hope it works well for you!</TD></TR></TABLE>


.....actually, you own a honda so shame on you:

You're comparing abs from different mfr's and the hows and whys of their ABS system designs have nothing to do with honda's. Period.

Don't make me dig up the article on a HONDA road racing exercise where they did double blind tests with professional drivers, and the drivers couldn't turn better laps with abs off. I don't care what subaru or mazda did to make their ABS shitty. Honda has the king dingaling of ABS systems.

 

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besides, it's just one more aid to take the fun away from driving.. like TCS and ASM.. and power sunroof's</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothin' more fun then operating that manual sunroof on a hot summers day.

 

Locking this cause I am not sure why it was brought back from dead.