Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please!

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Default Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please!

I have a 1990 Civic Si at stock height with 17" rims with 205 40's. When taking a real hard corner the fender lip rubs the tire. I did a search and two options came up, Roll the inside of the fender with a wooden bat or cut the lip. Someone had also mentioned that there are people who roll the fenders with a special machine for around $200.00(Who and where). I would pay $200.00 to make sure it is done right, But I am not afraid to do things myself. What I am looking for is opinions of which route to go or new ideas of what to do about my problem. I love to dive into hard corners but I don't want to ruin my Proxes. Any help would be appreciated very much.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (broncoman74)

the bat idea is fine....dont cut the whole lip, it weakens the metal.....one suggestion i've done and has worked well is to cut the lip, in big sections and hammer them flat one by one....it workes pretty well and doesnt weaken the metal as much...also, i would say that the offset of your wheels is incorrect...usually, if u run a 17X7 rim with a 205/40 tire with the correct offset, it shouldnt rub...
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (broncoman74)

How about buying some rims with the correct offset or have your current ones shaved a couple of millimeters (if possible) so the rims are moved inwards?
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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How about buying some rims with the correct offset or have your current ones shaved a couple of millimeters (if possible) so the rims are moved inwards?
Where could you get the rims shaved by a couple of mm? I'm running 16x7 rims w/ 205/40 Falken ze-502s and I'm having the same problem, rubbing around corners. Sorry to put this in your post, but it's pretty much the same prob.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (importfan85)

What do you consider the correct offset? The offset that was recommended everywhere was 17x7-4x100 and that is definitly what offset my wheel are.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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What do you consider the correct offset? The offset that was recommended everywhere was 17x7-4x100 and that is definitly what offset my wheel are.
17 (inch diameter) x 7 (inch width) - 4 (lugs) X 100mm (lug pattern)
that is not the offset, offset is the 'spacing' from the outside of the wheel to where it touches the rotor/drum. it should say on the inside of your wheel...
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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yeah i rolled my fenders with a hammer. it works well if your careful. just make sure not to miss
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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yep i'm concerned to, I figure to buy 17 or 16 inch rims soon, with tire, I am really interested in knowing wich offset is the best !!


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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Stock is 40, 38 is usually good for less than 205 width tires, but on EF's/CRX's they seem to rub a little more than other chassis.
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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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isnt 45mm the correct offset?
it is over here, i doubt it would be different over there withyou guys....would it?

when we have this problem, thats what we do aswell, roll the arches!

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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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I run 16x7 with 205 45 kumhos on Enkei RPO 2's and i dont rub on fender lips Wish I knew the offset cause it must be right
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:27 AM
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You can shave the rim's heart at a machineshop (where they make all sort of custom steel/alu jobs) . It has to be done with extreme precision (should be perfectly flat) and these guys have the right equipment to do it. It shouldn't cost more than 60$. You do have to remove the tires.

Note the max. amount that can be shaved off depends on the rim's design. F.e. if the manufacturar makes your set of rims in +45 you can shave yours down to +45 as well. Sometimes the manufacturar leaves a thin line visible on the rim which represents the max. offset. They do so because rim manufacturar's don't cast rims in specific offsets and have like fifty +45 x16 rims in stock. Instead they make one model in offset x and shave them down according to the orders.

Note that warranty is always void when you shave the rim's heart
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:01 AM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (REX VT)

My body shop has cut the lip then apply huge amount of underseal after.
no rust so far.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:38 AM
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i would roll the fenders over cutting them. i used the bat trick to roll my fenders and all is fine.

btw, there is some good info from rex vt.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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they also have these things tht you can fit in your springs that you can use to raise &/or lower the car slightly, i think their only like $7 at autozone. just an idea if you're on a budget or don't want to modify the body or your car..............
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (broncoman74)

I have the same problem as you and I also have 17" rims with 205 40 Toyo tires. My rims have an offset of 40, but they're 7.5" wide so they still come out as far as the outside body of the car. So I'd probably have to cut the lip and roll the fenders out, but the problem is my front fenders are fiberglass! Does anyone know what I can do with that?
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (OldSchoolHatch)

You should never have to roll the front fenders from what I was told. Is it rubbing now? If it is you probably would have to find someone that does fiberglass work.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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You should never have to roll the front fenders from what I was told. Is it rubbing now? If it is you probably would have to find someone that does fiberglass work.
My front fenders don't rub at all, it's just my backs. I might just have to try that bat trick...
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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do the bat. if u cut **** up it can have a negative effect on your tires
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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i have 17x7s with 205/40 falken 502s and i dont rub at all ive tried to corner real hard to see if they would and they dont. and btw there on a dx so no sway bar or anything oh ya and its stock height. if you roll them with a bat wont it flex the metal enough to chip the paint. larry's car is like mint and i dont think he wants to mess anything up.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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You should never have to roll the front fenders from what I was told. Is it rubbing now? If it is you probably would have to find someone that does fiberglass work.
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Yeah the front ones rub once in a while on turns, and the back ones only rub when I have people in the back. I always have a 100lb sub box back there. Anyway, it's not too much of a problem now, but I eventually wanted to lower it about an inch or so. I was wondering if I get skunk2 coilovers and tokico struts, and lower it a little, do you think it'll rub more or less than it does now?
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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if youre careful u can roll the fenders without chippin the paint
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Cut fender or roll it with a bat? Opinions please! (johnzm)

Why not just slow down in the corners....? I'm sure with 17s you're not really autoX'ing anyhow. lol

My 88 CRX DX had 16x7 Konig Tuners on a 205/45-16 Kumho's and they never rubbed, even in hard cornering. Well, for as hard as a 1.5 DX could corner. lol

I too would recommend the SLOW roll of the bat, over a cut job.
NOTE- put a 14-15" rim on before tryint to roll the fenders. That way you're not OVER rolling them.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 12:29 AM
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i run 16x7 with 205/40 tires with a 43 offset and its a perfect fit
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Yeah I think my problem is that my wheels are 7.5" wide w/40 offset.
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