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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Default RAM AIR!!! Why not on an R?

I was driving to work this morning when some chucklehead in one of those stupid-*** Ram Air equipped Grand Am's was revving at me, and I got to thinking... Why doesn't anyone run any kind of half-assed ram air setup on an R? I've read big long essays on why ram air does and doesn't work, but it just struck me as odd that I've never even seen so much as an integra ram air kit on ebay.

Maybe my R will be a prototype for a new and useless intake system
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Doesn't work. You figure your engine pulls hard enough at low rpms to suck water up a 3'' diameter tube. The outside air would have to be pushing harder than that to make it do anything..

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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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I modified a turn signal to route unobstructive cold air to my "Icebox" CAI ( http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html ). Here are a few pictures:



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I primarily use this "ram air" duct for HPDE (see picture below).



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This is similiar to a principle used by the Speed Channel World Challenge cars.

Let me know if you have any questions.



[Modified by BSQ, 2:23 PM 1/27/2003]
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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didnt someone just recently install a custom scoop on a c/f hood with ram air kinda thing?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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because for the amount of gains you MIGHT get, it looks gay when you cut a hole in your hood.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Because on integras's the hood is a dead spot. There's really not that much air flowing over the hood so there's really no point in placing a ram air scoop

you are much better to put it at the front of the vehicle
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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didnt someone just recently install a custom scoop on a c/f hood with ram air kinda thing?
Dr Pooface did:






Here a link to the thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=382507
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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ill stick with aem y0

no fugly hood for me
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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hey what pieces are those that go on the turn signals. Where u get those parts at.And what about the thing that is gonna go to the actyual filter..is tehre a tube running to the filter?What is that?where u get it?Please help...loox really nice...
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Doesn't work. You figure your engine pulls hard enough at low rpms to suck water up a 3'' diameter tube. The outside air would have to be pushing harder than that to make it do anything..
I thought it was more for "cooler" air.. not just ram action..
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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It does work. I ran this setup on my EK and my EG and I love the way they perform over any other intakes besides Mugen.

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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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I thought it was more for "cooler" air.. not just ram action..
Well thats true. It would get a lot cooler air. I wonder how much rain it would suck up at 70 mph though.


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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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BSQ that setup seems pretty intersting!

I might try doing that with some of those old clear corners I have
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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ugly hood?
That **** rules~!!
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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I have been running the same set up as the GSR on my R for quite some time now and you can tell a little difference then with a stock blinker. I like it mainly because it is not very noticable to ricers and gives the engine bay a stock look (for those with iceboxes)
about sucking up water when it rains: I Very rarely drive my R in the rain but when I do I have No problems because I drilled about 4 small holes in the bottom of the intake tube to let what little moister that comes in out
plus it is said that it takes 4cups of H2O to hydrolock/ do damage to a motor and I dont think I could drive fast enough to bring 4 cups through that little *** hole in the blinker plus with all the humidity in the air besides the rain it is sucking up a little water no muter what kind of intake you have (with the exception to stock)

On another Note I did put some mesh on the back of the blinker hole (before the intake tube) b/c it would suck bugs and things into my air box (restricting the flow of the filter)
I think this a much safer intake then the AEM and I think it gives more power aswell IMO for what it is worth
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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plus it is said that it takes 4cups of H2O to hydrolock/ do damage to a motor
I thought it was 1 tablespoon..


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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Could just take out the light! Save you money and time.......
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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As far as hydrolocking goes (w/ a ice box), wouldnt' you have to not only fill up the tube from the blinker to the box, but then fill up the box enough so that the filter sucks up the water? I think I'm right on this one, b/c the only reason CAI's can cause a hydrolock is b/c the filter is at the end of the piping and if in water will suck up the water, and there is no more protection to the intake manifold & engine after the filter (unless you get the Bypass)....so Icebox setups with low ram induction are probibly the best solution.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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once again children..............the filter must be submerged........think of it like this

Try sucking up water with a straw that has a hole in it (very difficult).........now do the same thing with a new straw.....wow.....that water really flows
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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invent one called super induction cold air
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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This is what i'm working on... Please don't hate on the primer as i'm still working on it

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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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This is what i'm working on... Please don't hate on the primer as i'm still working on it

so u dont want us to hate on the primer or the fact that there is no opening for air to go through, hahaha. jk. nice pic seems like a really functional idea.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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so u dont want us to hate on the primer or the fact that there is no opening for air to go through, hahaha. jk. nice pic seems like a really functional idea.
If i cut a hole in it, then water will get in... duh
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