My cousin sent me these pics. He misshifted his b16a at 9200 and he doesnt have a rev limiter. on people with no rev limiter. The pics arent too good, but piston 1 is simply not there, its all in the oil pan and the rod is twisted, not bent, but twisted. Piston 3 also has a very large hole in it. 2 valves dropped in each of the two cylinders. Here are the pics:







[Modified by VTEC-DA, 6:02 PM 1/22/2003]

 

That sux's. Did he say how high his rpm's went after he missed?

 

wow! impressive ... i thought everybody was telling us how B16's are the ****'s with the rod ratio and stuff.. saying they can do 9k no problem... hmmm.......

i wonder what the the people who condone titanium retainers will say to this one...

hahahaha

 

Dammm!!! what the hell was he doing at 9000+ rpm?

nice pics though

 

He didnt know, well past 10k though.

As far as being at 9000k+, he is one of those guy who is convinced that even with stock cams, his car still pulls hard after 8500, so he keeps going.


[Modified by VTEC-DA, 6:08 PM 1/22/2003]

 

i don't think a rev limiter would protect you against that kind of misshift...late

 

Correct, a rev-limited would NOT have helped him.

If you grab the wrong gear, your tranny will spin your engine as fast as it wants.

Unless you mean mis-shift as in simply not going into ANY gear at all?

That sucks though.

 

lol trial and error I guess

 

There's quite a few ITR owners out there who do this. Shifting at 8,900 as if it's going to help anything.

 

But at least they have the ITR cams, which make power a hell of alot higher than the B16a cams do.

 

They can, and with the right valve train they can make power up to 10k.

I shift at 9k, safely.

 

nice... memories

 

@9200?? Damn, I'm still waiting for the pics to show.

 

i dont do it, i dont really run my car that hard, but i was under the impression that if you shifted higher then you could stay in vtec in the next gear and not drop out.

 

i see no problem shifting at 10k rpms my friend does it all the time.

 

Lesson learned: don't shift into wrong gear.

 

exactally why removing the rev limiter is POINTLESS without major headwork.

 

yea one thing thats true... spectators never get injured. if you race your car you will eventually mis a shift accidentally into a gear and become yet another statistic of pride under fire. those pics look more like it failed under the influence of Nitrous/misshift. there is way too much detonation in the head quench area and tops of pistons to make me think otherwise. better luck next time

 

Seen that happen a few times with a stock rev limiter.... Those mis shift 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd shifts can kill Oh well scrap the B16 for a B18C... Peace

 

If you have a honda with vtec, you shouldn't have that problem shifting at the stock redline or even a little bit below it. Honda manufacturers were smart on that subject matter..

Now maybe a celica on the other hand...

 

Ouch, that is one expensive mistake! My freind's bottom end kinda looked the same after he blew it up with his bottle.

 

i redlined 3rd went into 4th at least i thought is was 4th. turned out to be 2nd, saw my rpms go to 10k+ on a stock b20. the rev limiter doesnt exist whe you do something like this, even if you do have one, cause i did

car was fine for a few weeks. but i musta slapped a valve on a piston which caused a slight crack on the valve cause this is waht happend


you cant really tell from the pic but pieces of the valve are melted to the stem.
bottom end was fine sort of. i found i was burning a lot of oil afterwards, about 2L a week.

the bottom end finally let go in november. it held up for about a year after the valve went. i'm guessing the rings went because i opened it up and it looked fine. no damage to the pistons or valves. compression was like 75 in #4cyl.

 

I shift at 9500 all the time ......
Heck, I make my most power at 9200

 

hey my sohc vtec (jdm) d15b (good r/s stroke ratio 1.62:1) has seen few 8500rpm+ runs.

rev limits have nothing to do with misshift. but running no-revlimit on stock car is simply asking for trouble.

 

Yea me too man, 15500+rpm... haha j/k Peace