Hondata S200 troubles

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:56 PM
  #1  
Doodoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Not from Houston
Default Hondata S200 troubles

I feel like I wasted $1000 ******* dollars....

I am so upset right now.

I converted my 88 CRX Si to OBD-1, cool.

I installed my Hondata chips and removed J12 on my P75 ECU. Made a jumper on J1. Great. So I hook everything up, burn my EPROM, install it. I get a solid check engine light. It runs in limp mode, great.
I had my O2 sensor hooked up wrong at first but that is corrected. THere are no codes.

My interface box flashes slowly and Solid Check Engine light.

I have tried:
Re-soldered and rechecked connections(4 times at least)
Pressed Set Button while starting.
Run without J1 ( will not start, I think because of J12)
Burned stock ROMs
Installing the Caps at C51 and C52.
There is no R54.

I know:
The ECU is good, tested on another LS.
The connections are good
The interface box has been used on another system, its good.
The EPROM has been used on another system, its good.

Basically the ECU and interface are not talking. I cannot connect to my software, obviously.

Would someone please lend a hand? I have one more day to figure this out...

Thank you




[Modified by Doodoo, 3:59 PM 1/19/2003]


[Modified by Doodoo, 4:20 PM 1/19/2003]
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:55 PM
  #2  
ekb18c's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,140
Likes: 0
From: nj
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

You sure all your wiring is correct?

The blue box flashes right?

If you are trying to connect to the ecu with the emulator and pocket programmer and the blue box flashes it may mean a couple of things.

It could mean that somewhere along the line , from ecu to your laptop, there is a loose connection. It could be your emulator that is not connecting, that's usually the case.

Did you try burning a eeprom and then putting into the ecu too see?

First pinpoint if you have any malfunctioned euipment.

Then check your wiring again.

If nothign works try contacting Hondata.


Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 03:39 PM
  #3  
Doodoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Not from Houston
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (ekb18c)

I have not tried Emulating, yet. Last time I did I burned up my Programmer.

I have been burning EPROMs all day. Stock,boost, no boost, big injectors, stock injectors, you name it.

The only component I can think of that could be bad is the interface. But I just used it about 3 weeks ago...
We did start having problems connecting while using my box near the end of tuning.

Damnit, looks like I go to work in limp mode...

Thanks.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:03 PM
  #4  
KOTSEMOTO's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: La Basilica, NA, Dominica Republic
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

I think there is a communication issue between your ECU and interface box. We will need to do some other stuff probably other than remove j12. Call Hondata.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:20 PM
  #5  
2K_TEG's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,121
Likes: 0
From: in the LEAVES, USA
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (KOTSEMOTO)

Brian,

I just got your message, there was no answer when I called back. Maybe I wrote the number down wrong. Give me a call back if you see this, I will be around for a while.

This definately sounds like a problem with communication between the box and the ECU. They base maps shouldn't be a problem, they are pretty easy to make. Have you checked over your modifications to the ECU?
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:09 PM
  #6  
Doodoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Not from Houston
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (2K_TEG)

It looks like I fried my ECU somehow.

Thanks for your sugestions turbo peoples.


Kyle you got PM.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:32 PM
  #7  
Spunkster's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 2
From: Thats my one
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

By any chance to you have the datalogging cable connected? Try disconnecting that and see if the interface box continues to flash. Also make sure you are making v3 roms and not v25 roms. Message me on AIM: IntegraTypeR
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:34 PM
  #8  
VaporTrail's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,467
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

really sounds like your 4 pin connector was soldered in backwards.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:38 PM
  #9  
Spunkster's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 2
From: Thats my one
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (VaporTrail)

if the 4 pin were in backwards, i believe that there would be no flashing on the interface box.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 09:07 PM
  #10  
VaporTrail's Avatar
New User
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,467
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, FL, USA
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Spunkster)

actually I've done it accidentally, you're right, no power to the box.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:29 PM
  #11  
MRSI00's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: San Bernardino, CA, USA
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

Is the software, you need to upgrade it, i had the same problem when i went to the dyno place and we found out that it was the conflic between the laptop software and the blue box.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:04 AM
  #12  
Doodoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Not from Houston
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (MRSI00)

I am running RE 3.0.12 and HL 3.1. So I don't think its the software. I removed everything to make it stock and replaced J12. I got a solid check light after that. So I am not sure WTF is going on. I spoke to Hondata, I will be sending everything out for analysis. Thanks for all your suggestions.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:34 AM
  #13  
CHEETAH's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,828
Likes: 1
From: Woodbridge, NJ, Middlesex
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

I am running RE 3.0.12 and HL 3.1. So I don't think its the software. I removed everything to make it stock and replaced J12. I got a solid check light after that. So I am not sure WTF is going on. I spoke to Hondata, I will be sending everything out for analysis. Thanks for all your suggestions.
i was gonna suggest you start your car up with stock ecu to ensure you have no CEL

greg
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:49 AM
  #14  
Doodoo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 1
From: Not from Houston
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (CHEETAH)


i was gonna suggest you start your car up with stock ecu to ensure you have no CEL

greg
I already did, its a solid light. yay. At least it wasn't hard to bump my car back to non-OBD.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:53 AM
  #15  
Austin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,276
Likes: 0
From: Sears Point, CA
Default Re: Hondata S200 troubles (Doodoo)

The local Hondata dealer had a similar problem with installing a hondata in an LS ecu, the Hondata just wouldn't work with the ecu(and we tried 6+ different ecu's), the car would run with a p28 ecu installed, however it kept throwing a vtec code(vtec ecu in a non vtec car, this was before the ability to turn vtec off in the V3.0). Eventually they installed an older version of the Hondata box(old silver one) and everything worked perfectly fine, Hondata was unable to find out what was wrong, and everything that they did on their test bench worked, but wouldn't work in the car, they even sent out a newer version of the program to see if that would work.

Austin
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
92integraVTECgsr
Engine Management and Tuning
10
Apr 2, 2009 06:24 PM
crxvtecturbo
Tech / Misc
1
Jul 14, 2005 07:48 PM
busakiller
Forced Induction
5
Aug 14, 2004 07:33 AM
Spids5
Tech / Misc
21
Jul 14, 2003 02:00 PM
VtecInteg95
Forced Induction
4
Jan 6, 2003 08:13 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:53 PM.