I have decided to do Ground Control Coilovers and Koni Yellows on my R. I just want to know a few things if anyone could help me out ...

I do not have enough money to get the full suspension setup right now.. I just want to have a lower stance. Would it be alright to just ge the Ground Control Coilover setup for now and get the Koni's later?

What setting do I want to Ground Controls on if I have not upgraded the shocks yet to Koni (I would like a drop like the H&R sports offer, is that possible to have before I get the Koni shocks?)

What is the exact name of the Ground Control kit i want?

What is the Ground Control main website?

Thanks,
Jon

 

To make part of what i said simpler....

GC's = 1.3 drop in back, 1.5 drop in front
H&R sport springs = 1.3 drop in back, 1.5 drop in front

I have heard the H&Rs will wear the stock shocks in +-2 years... I want to know if I lower the car the same ammount with the GC's, will it last just about as long? How do the spring rates differ? Input?

Thanks!
Jon

 

I used to know the H&R spring rate, but I can't seem to find it. As for the GCs, when your order them, you should order custom spring rates, that's what everyone does. Get springs rates to match your shocks and to the usage you'd need.

 

If you get spring rates to accomodate the damping characteristics of a stock shock you still have a potential problem with bottoming out, especially if your lowered past 1.5 inches.

Honestly, you can't have higher spring rates without the proper damper to control it.

 

If I order the GC's with custom eibach springs that have a springrate to work with the stock shock, then wont i have issues later when I want to upgrade to koni shocks? Wont i want a diff. spring rate then?

Can someone give me some advice. I will eventually have 17x7.5 inch wheels (most likely SSR competitions)....and I would like to have a clean looking drop (my guess is the H&R drop would be perfect (just a guess), which is 1.5 front/1.3 back.

Jon

 

What's the worse that happens? you blow the shock shocks? who cares. What's your budget currently allow for? ($ amount)

You want to sell those stock springs?

 

George: read his Poll thread for more info.. "suspension setup" I think it was called.

 

why spend the money on koni's if you are on such a limited budget. Also George may be able to clarify but the shock rebound/compression adjustment on the rear shock of a Koni is not easily changed. I believe it is on the bottom and the shock may have to come out.

This would lead me away from Koni for the price.

 

Ok guys... hear me out ...... first of all, i want a lower stance. I am happy with how much the H&R Sports lower the car....

the reason I am looking into getting shocks later is for 2 reasons:

1. The stock ones are gonna wear out over time
2. It would be nice to be able to setup my suspension for drag launching

Jon

 

you going to reply to my post or no?

 

I'm not sure about the ITR shocks, but I know with my EK the Koni coilover sleeves from GC are different from the ones used with factory or other aftermarket shocks.

 

Koni and Bilstein both use adapters because they don't use normal spring perches

 

i would recommend the H&R sport with upgraded shocks though stock shocks
work fine. My stock shocks have over 110K miles on them and they are working
fine with the H&Rs. I like KONIs personally, but i would recommend you get the
rears converted to externally adjustable like the ones I have are.

 

I love how you guys pigeon hole me like that.
Remember, I was road racing before you even had an ITR.

call truechoice.

 

Steve: Was he really slamming you? You have done a lot of drag racing no? I didn't read "Steve's done a lot of drag racing but no road racing so you can take him at his word" in George's post..

BTW, you missed someone who really did accuse you of being nothing but a drag ***** in another thread

 

Where where!?!? lol

Didnt mean to be an ***, but its one of those things that annoy me.
Man, i miss those days when i was unemployed and had money to spend.
Ironic part is I road raced more before I got the ITR.

 

You are just a stunna....

On topic for the poster.

I would just keep stock. If all you want is the lowered stance then just go with the off the shelf GC's. The problem with wanting to add shocks down the road, you will need different sleeves and adapters to use GC's with Konis or bilsteins. You are going to end up having to buy those parts to make the setup work.

Why not just cut your stock springs, that is what Steeeevie did.

 

worked damn well too

 

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Thanks!
Jon

 

read my posts above, in one of them I asked you some questions that you never answered

 

im curious to what the off the shelf springrates are too. i just purchased a set. and did not specify any springrates since i dont know what i want yet

 

It should be listed on the Ground Control website.

 

LOL

 

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maybe im stupid cause i coud not find any mention of the springrates on their off hte shlf items