Hubcentric.. how important?
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Just bought a set of steel wheels for my snow tires. The center bore is slightly larger than the integra hub. How important is it to have these match? I'm hoping to make due this winter then get rid of them in the spring. TIA.
if you want the wheels to go round in the manner that they are supposed to then hubcentric rings are important, if you would like the wheels to turn like a rickety cart, then they are not important!
nah, not important. nice to have but dont sweat over it. if you have the right lug nuts then just do a criss-cross pattern when tightening them and the lug nuts will center the wheel for you.
I ran my slipstreams with them off and then on. They aren't that important unless you rush putting the wheels without them. Basically, the wheel fits alittle tighter with them on without the lugs. But, the lugs are tappered along with the holes of the wheels so they will be centered if you hand tighten them in a criss-cross pattern and torque them correctly.
Having a hubcentric wheel or ring for the wheel puts the weight of the car/wheel on the HUB. The will give your car a more natural roll and feel. Especially noticable the higher in diameter you get. Without hubcentric design, the weight is supported by the 4 lugs only.
Your car can ride on non-hubcentric wheels w/o a problem, just puts more stresss on the lugs, but they are made to take abuse. Ride thru the season w.o a worry, but do torque them on properly. Look around... I'd bet 60+ % of cars w/ non OEM rims are riding w/o hubcentric adapter rings....
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Your car can ride on non-hubcentric wheels w/o a problem, just puts more stresss on the lugs, but they are made to take abuse. Ride thru the season w.o a worry, but do torque them on properly. Look around... I'd bet 60+ % of cars w/ non OEM rims are riding w/o hubcentric adapter rings....
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thats bullshit . my rotas are hubcentric and need the rings. well i never put em on and have been driveing on them for over a year now , ive autoxed on them drag raced ont hme drove to RI and back a few times, Ga and back a few times. my car doesnt woblee , shake or anythign , rides like a dream. its all in the installer
no just couldnt find the correct ones needed and noone seemed to knwo where to get em , i have peace of mind , so im not concerned, when my wheels fall off then ill be concerned.
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Thanks everyone,
These are steel wheels they don't make hubcentric rings for them. I do agree that proper fitment would be ideal just don't want to buy new steelies.
These are steel wheels they don't make hubcentric rings for them. I do agree that proper fitment would be ideal just don't want to buy new steelies.
Definetally use the rings!!!
I just replaced 3 studs that snapped due to this. Guys w/newer cars dont have to worry as much, but remember as was said before, this causes the weight to rest on the lugs which may cause them to snap, bend, warp (mine did all of these).
someone on this board snapped many lug studs be cause they didnt have a hub centric ring. I feel its important.
someone on this board snapped many lug studs be cause they didnt have a hub centric ring. I feel its important.
thats bullshit . my rotas are hubcentric and need the rings. well i never put em on and have been driveing on them for over a year now , ive autoxed on them drag raced ont hme drove to RI and back a few times, Ga and back a few times. my car doesnt woblee , shake or anythign , rides like a dream. its all in the installer
I guarantee if you put on stock rims you WILL notice the difference... the 'installer' has very little to do with it.
yes rota slips are hubcentric do you have them or do I ?
all you gotta do is hold them to fit kinda even on the hub when tightening the nuts and tyour good ,thats what i ment about the installer. if they just let em hang when putting thme on they wont seat right and you will feel a little wobble.
check your resources bro man .
all you gotta do is hold them to fit kinda even on the hub when tightening the nuts and tyour good ,thats what i ment about the installer. if they just let em hang when putting thme on they wont seat right and you will feel a little wobble.
check your resources bro man .
check your resources bro man .
yes rota slips are hubcentric do you have them or do I ?
all you gotta do is hold them to fit kinda even on the hub when tightening the nuts and tyour good ,thats what i ment about the installer. if they just let em hang when putting thme on they wont seat right and you will feel a little wobble.
all you gotta do is hold them to fit kinda even on the hub when tightening the nuts and tyour good ,thats what i ment about the installer. if they just let em hang when putting thme on they wont seat right and you will feel a little wobble.

Hubcentric rims don't 'wobble'.
Next time, before you speak... try to know what you're talking bout... k ?
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[Modified by X2BOARD, 6:16 PM 11/20/2002]
aight im telling you they are hub centric. but thats ok , your right. they do not fit correctly on the hub, i was told by 100 people not to run those wheels without them including rim & tire places becuase they need hubcentric rings. . .w ell 1yr and 1/2 later they are still on without them .
but thanks for the insight, ill let all the people who instal wheels and tires everyday for a living that they were wrong in their theories.
but thanks for the insight, ill let all the people who instal wheels and tires everyday for a living that they were wrong in their theories.
btw, itas the same rings, the guys with the Volk Te37's said they needed to put on for the same issues too and i think the Spoon 's .
ill search more though
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=173165
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=166613
care to go one more about this . ?
[Modified by itr206, 10:33 AM 11/20/2002]
ill search more though
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=173165
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=166613
care to go one more about this . ?
[Modified by itr206, 10:33 AM 11/20/2002]
btw, itas the same rings, the guys with the Volk Te37's said they needed to put on for the same issues too and i think the Spoon 's .
ill search more though
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=173165
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=166613
care to go one more about this . ?
[Modified by itr206, 10:33 AM 11/20/2002]
ill search more though
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=173165
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=166613
care to go one more about this . ?
[Modified by itr206, 10:33 AM 11/20/2002]
Hey Einstien ! If you NEED to put hub centric rings on your rims, that means ...THEY ARE NOT HUBCENTRIC !!!

Just so you know there, pumpkin.... as referenced in those 'carefully' chosen posts you took your time to find.... VOLKS are NOT KONIGS.
And SPOON rims are basically a STOCK HONDA RIM, Slipstreams ARE NOT SW-388's (the original Spoon model #) SPOON rims are hubcentric because they are MADE for Hondas, know what that means ? It means you DON'T need to put a centering ring on to have it rest on the hub. Rota/Konig (Same company...or did you not know that EITHER ?) makes copies of Spoon and Volk rims and they are not nearly identical AND they are aftermarket rims, mass production, sooo... they are not hubcentric, hence they need hubcentric/centering rings.
BTW, the guys in the posts you so quickly referenced think that Honda lugs are meant to support the weight of the car.... uuummm hmm.. Just because your rims are fine w/o rings doesn't mean anything. I never said you CAN'T use non-hub centric rims.
But, you seem to be a brainiac... so myself and ALL the Honda engineers and rims manufacturers are wrong....
ROTLMMFAO....
Do you care to continue ?
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So I've thought about and I don't think the non-hubcentric rims will be safe in the long run. Bolts (or studs) are designed to take tensile loads only, running on non-hubcentric rims means that a bump in the road will put the stud into bending load (like a cantilever beam). It may never fail but it was never designed to take that kind of load. Hope this makes sense.
I bought some new hubcentric steelies.
I bought some new hubcentric steelies.
So I've thought about and I don't think the non-hubcentric rims will be safe in the long run. Bolts (or studs) are designed to take tensile loads only, running on non-hubcentric rims means that a bump in the road will put the stud into bending load (like a cantilever beam). It may never fail but it was never designed to take that kind of load. Hope this makes sense.
I bought some new hubcentric steelies.
I bought some new hubcentric steelies.
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