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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Default ITRs with NSX brakes, I got a few questions.

OK here's what I know (so far) that I can use on the front:
'91-'96 NSX calipers
'95 Legend GS front rotors
4, 2mm washers for proper spacing (Thanks Migs )
~Anything else?

What can I use to change the rear ITR brakes to NSX rear brakes?
Same year '91-'96 NSX rear calipers?
Same year '95 Legend GS rear rotors?
Any washers needed for the rear?

~Your help will be greatly appreciated!


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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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why do u want to change the rear?
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Comon Cliffy, i got that ITR Wilwood kit sitting in my garage at home. Its just taking up space and i dont want to bother with it anymore. I can sell it to you super cheap, seriously.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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why do u want to change the rear?
He wants to be all NSX/JDM Yo!
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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Default Re: ITRs with NSX brakes, I got a few questions. (Rguy)

which of the Wilwood kits do you have... one offered by Wilwood, Fastbrakes, etc?
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:14 PM
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changing the rear is useless (unless you want to just change the looks)
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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changing the rear is useless (unless you want to just change the looks)
From what i understand, upgrading the rear will help cut down on the nose dive experienced on the track (Especially coming down from 135 for turn one at VIR)
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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No it won't. Nosedive is a function of the rate of deceleration, the height of the center of gravity, and the extent to which the weight of the car can "pivot" around the center of gravity. Using bigger brakes generally doesn't improve the rate of deceleration (since the braking is limited by the traction of the tires); the primary benefit is in maintaining the ability to brake when the brakes get hot, by preventing fade and other heat-related problems. Firmer springs and lowering the car will reduce nosedive; bigger rear brakes won't.



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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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changing the rear is useless (unless you want to just change the looks)

From what i understand, upgrading the rear will help cut down on the nose dive experienced on the track (Especially coming down from 135 for turn one at VIR)
Springs and damper characteristics control this. if you want more braking friction in the rear - then all you have to do is use more aggressive pads in the rear
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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... if you want more braking friction in the rear - then all you have to do is use more aggressive pads in the rear
Yes, but will they be NSX pads?
The rear calipers probably aren't that purty anyway.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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washers? I didn't need any washers for the legend calipers. the NSX caliper might to clear the silly looking "NSX" on the caliper.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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the silly looking "NSX" on the caliper.
It doesn't look silly at all on an NSX...
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 08:39 PM
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the silly looking "NSX" on the caliper.

It doesn't look silly at all on an NSX...
Very true! Too bad we can't get them to say "Type-R" on our calipers
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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Too bad we can't get them to say "Type-R" on our calipers
It's also too bad we can't get them to say "We-Todd-Did" on our calipers.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:37 AM
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why do u want to change the rear?
Why not... you know I like to be difficult!
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:38 AM
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Comon Cliffy, i got that ITR Wilwood kit sitting in my garage at home.
PM'd ya
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:40 AM
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He wants to be all NSX/JDM Yo!
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:43 AM
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changing the rear is useless (unless you want to just change the looks)
changing just about anything from it's original shape, condition, function could be viewed as useless also - so why not change the rear calipers?
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:44 AM
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From what i understand, upgrading the rear will help cut down on the nose dive experienced on the track (Especially coming down from 135 for turn one at VIR)
Does this come from experience?
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:47 AM
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No it won't. Nosedive is a function of the rate of deceleration, the height of the center of gravity, and the extent to which the weight of the car can "pivot" around the center of gravity. Using bigger brakes generally doesn't improve the rate of deceleration (since the braking is limited by the traction of the tires); the primary benefit is in maintaining the ability to brake when the brakes get hot, by preventing fade and other heat-related problems. Firmer springs and lowering the car will reduce nosedive; bigger rear brakes won't.
I'm working on the suspension also - Thanks for your input!
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:48 AM
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Springs and damper characteristics control this. if you want more braking friction in the rear - then all you have to do is use more aggressive pads in the rear

Correct! And I shall be looking for more aggressive pads also.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:54 AM
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Yes, but will they be NSX pads?
The rear calipers probably aren't that purty anyway.
From the info I've found so far... the97-01 ITR and 91-96 NSX share the same pads the '97+ NSXs have a slightly larger caliper for the slightly larger rotor.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:55 AM
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It doesn't look silly at all on an NSX...

And it wouldn't look silly on my car either.
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Old Nov 3, 2002 | 03:57 AM
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Very true! Too bad we can't get them to say "Type-R" on our calipers

Depends on how much $$$ someone would be willing to dish out!
It could be done - but you knew that.
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