GZERO

is this product any good? i've read tons of good things about it, and if you ask what about the freezing temps i don't get temperatures colder than 60 degrees, so, i don't need coolant, so i was thinking that the water wetter combination with water would work better and wouldn't make my engine die, what do you guys think?
i'm looking at experiences more than "i've heard" things

Big Phat R

Good product.

I don't understand what you mean by "so i was thinking that the water wetter combination with water would work better and wouldn't make my engine die".

GZERO

well, simply because water is the best to run on an engine because it absorbs heat better than any other liquid, but water rust metal, so if water is mixed with water wetter they say it doesn't create any rust because the water wetter has some lubricants that kill the rust properties of water.
(english is my third languaje) if you didn't understand i will try another way to explain it

Big Phat R

Yes but you are forgetting the fact that WATER BOILS AT 100 C. Adding coolant increased the boiling temperature. Water wetter is added to the water/coolant mixture.

read this:

http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/wwti.htm


[Modified by Big Phat R, 6:08 PM 10/22/2002]

GZERO

yeah, but doesn't the radiator caps creates more pressure so that the boiling point of water would increase?

91DA9

yes it does, 28 mmHg raises the boiling point by 1 degree celsius.

GZERO

so what would you guys recommend? as i say before the lowest temp i'm going to see with this car is around 65 F, the web page says that water with water wetter is the best combination. so i'm a lil confused

EDIT: by the way, the reading comfirms that is best to use water+water wetter


[Modified by GZERO, 7:59 PM 10/22/2002]

PreIudeSI

for the record, water + metal doens't mean rust. Moisture and oxygen + metal = rust.

GZERO

so the answer would be?

Big Phat R

use glycol in your mix.

actual configuration of mix depends on operating/ambient temperature range.

martini

I agree on the NPG+..

but I would suggest you use 10% anti-freeze in the mixture, for it's anti-corrosive properties, as well as to help lubricate the water pump.

BROOD

Water Wetter does nothing more than increase the surface tension of the cooling system fluid (strait water or antifreeze-water mix). Increased surface tension allows the fluid to stick to the walls longer thus increasing the heat transferred to the fluid and carried away.
It may have some additional additives for anti-corrosion but I'm gonna bet they are more of a marketing ploy than anything else. I use a small amount of dish soap.....it works the same.

**edit** I know this has been discussed before....try a search to see what you can drum up.


[Modified by SLPR, 1:32 PM 10/23/2002]