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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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Default Front and rear ST anti-sway bars installed kind of........

This past weekend I installed both a front and rear Suspension Techniques anti-sway bars. It was the toughest install mod I ever done, (It was only me, my self, and Ryan helping to manuver the bars around). The job took a good 5 hours. I got the rear bolted on really good, as you can see in the pic the Mugen exhaust kind of got in the way.

The front however was a different story.
-Everything was going really good until I busted a endlink see pic. So I'm driving around right now without my endlink connected to the sway bar on the driver's side of the car. (needless to say I drive reather gingerly now.)
-The header decided to be a lil bitch, I broke the torque on 2 bolt but not the last on so I had to unbolt the exhaust side, then manuver the bar in place.


That lil piece is the end of the thread that the bolt screws on to I busted it while tightening it to the ST sway bar.
So I can't give any accounts as to how the handling is (because of the front end link) but the the ST bars are much heavier and have less flex than the stock bars. The rear has the most improvement as there are less curls in the car (see pic form NTPOG). The front is about the same but like I said lack of flex in the bar should really do wonders for handling. I'm going junk yard hunting tomorrow to find that endlink so I hope to let ya'll (if you even care) how the handling is.

For more info http://www.ntpog.org/mods/fifth-sway...fthsway1.shtml
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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just use the stock front bar... The car already has enough understeer, a front bar will just add to that.. Rear bar only will help eliminate
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:25 AM
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Wow, sounds like you had a hell of a time... hope you find that end link dude.. keep us posted...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 05:28 AM
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no matter what he needs a new endlink. i would buy a new endlink and then use both s/t bars as a set. the front bar made a WORLD of a different on my prelude.

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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:15 AM
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no matter what he needs a new endlink. i would buy a new endlink and then use both s/t bars as a set. the front bar made a WORLD of a different on my prelude.

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Your right, it will make a huge difference, in responce and sway... But, at the limit of overall grip, it will make the front tires loose grip first, which is a bad thing on a FWD car...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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ugh, i guess im the only one who gets mad oversteer in my car. i autoX my car all the time, and ALL i get is oversteer. i can swing my back end arround anything... maybe it cause i have crap tires in the back, and if so, god bless crappy tires.

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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Whenever you have the time, look under your car and make sure of your sway bar position. Since it will slide around w/o the end link in there to help keep it in place. I installed my sways as a set and love it. I can get a slight bit of oversteer. When I drove a friend's car w/o the front it wouldn't go though the slaloms as well.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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what rear tires do you have, compared to front?
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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what rear tires do you have, compared to front?
Corey,

From a post in Superhonda.com, he said he has Bridgestone S-03 in the front and BFG T/A Radial in the rear. No wonder why he has oversteer still with the ST front bar, and no wonder why he said in another post here in H-T.com that "those who said only get the rear bar, it's a crock of ****".



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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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Default Re: Front and rear ST anti-sway bars installed kind of........ (Honda318dx)

just use the stock front bar... The car already has enough understeer, a front bar will just add to that.. Rear bar only will help eliminate
Yeah you're right about the front sway bar, the amount of flex in the ST bar is about the same as the flex in the stock sway/ stabilizer bar. I got my end link today at the last salvage yard I called. I have yet to drive it, but I'll report back. Oh I can already notice and increase in stiffness in the rear.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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From a post in Superhonda.com, he said he has Bridgestone S-03 in the front and BFG T/A Radial in the rear.
Yikes! Bet thats fun to say the least...

I guess I don't know what im talking about, so i'll just shut up...
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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what rear tires do you have, compared to front?

no wonder why he said in another post here in H-T.com that "those who said only get the rear bar, it's a crock of ****".

[Modified by vwong, 4:30 PM 9/16/2002]
sorry about that, i never thought the difference in tires would make THAT big of a difference. BUT a friend of mine with a 5th gen lude also highly agreed that the front bar was so much more beneficial than the rear. i think it definately reduced more body roll (although maybe because it reduced it in the front of the car where i sit...) anyways i guess need the same tires all arround before i properly judge suspension upgrades.

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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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From the "feel" of the car, yes, a Front swaybar will make the car more responsive, and make it seem to handle better... But, what it does, is at the limit, overload the outside front tire, making it loose traction first (if you have the same tires ), so you don't turn.. put better bar in the rear, you overload the outside rear tire and BAM, oversteer and your car turning, eventhough it leaning more..
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 09:29 PM
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Ok so everything is installed and have test driven.
-Impressions.
I can definitely tell the the rear of the car is more stable than before, can't really tell a difference in the front though. When I take turns there is very little body, or the body roll has been dermatically reduced. I'm every happy with the preformance now. However I do have a lil clicking problem see thread.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=280640



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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Are you talking about it hitting the loop?

http://www.worldwideclassified.com/doug/stsway.html

I just wrapped some hi temp foam around my sway bar and put some zip ties on it so it says, hasn't melted and no dents on the exhaust yet after a year and a half.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 04:40 AM
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Are you talking about it hitting the loop?

http://www.worldwideclassified.com/doug/stsway.html

I just wrapped some hi temp foam around my sway bar and put some zip ties on it so it says, hasn't melted and no dents on the exhaust yet after a year and a half.
Hey thanks a lot, where can you get that foam, Home Depot?????
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