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Old Jul 24, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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Default Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam?

From the few posts I found with a search, the Comptech foam may gain a few hp.

What fits best in a stock '97 R airbox? Also, are all OEM R airboxes the same over the years?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Velvet Jones)

Anyone?
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Velvet Jones)

Thought I explained this . . .

RU2820 is cheapest.

Comptech is probably better but for drop in 1-2 hp is the most you will see anyway.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Velvet Jones)

I have the 2820. Its not a direct fit, it required some dremeling and gluing and cutting up of the factory filter.
But its nice, and seems like it works better...
And...it was inexpensive!

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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Asahi)

I have the E-2427. It works well.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Asahi)

Heh, you did Trey. Just wanted s'more feedback. I may pick up a Comptech sometime.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (9Grandr)

K&N 2820 = ~30.00
K&N 2427 = ~90.00
comptech = ~70.00

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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (aet6)

Also, the Comptech has been shown in several independent dyno tests to give a 2 whp gain. I have never seen any dyno chart showing gains for the K&N.


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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (norice)

[QUOTE]Also, the Comptech has been shown in several independent dyno tests to give a 2 whp gain. I have never seen any dyno chart showing gains for the K&N.
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I have one that shows a 1.x whp gain.
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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Asahi)

BUT a dynojet can show that between runs. ALthough the engine was warmer on the K&N run . . .
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Velvet Jones)

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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 03:41 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (BenMara)

I paid $65 from summit racing for the E-2427.
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (Velvet Jones)

Don't stare blind at the HP numbers. A filter should also filter out the dirt. Your engine will last longer with a good filter. Foam filters are known as good performers but bad filters. Oil filters like K&N are the best trade offs = good filtration (due to the oil) + good flow.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (DutchITR1689)

Don't stare blind at the HP numbers. A filter should also filter out the dirt. Your engine will last longer with a good filter. Foam filters are known as good performers but bad filters. Oil filters like K&N are the best trade offs = good filtration (due to the oil) + good flow.
You have actual evidence for all of the above claims?
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (norice)

I'll back up DutchITR1689 on that.

You have to service the "Foam" filters more often (per the manufacturer's directions). This is because they don't filter as well as the K&N cloth filters . . .
Ther are always similar debates with Oil Filters as well.
Flow vs Filtration



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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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get K&N or a cheap APC paper filter... cuz they actually FILTER out dirt!!! (K&N flows well of course)
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (csufweed)

I was actually looking for evidence. Making the same unsubstantiated point multiple times does not count as evidence.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (norice)

I was actually looking for evidence. Making the same unsubstantiated point multiple times does not count as evidence.
durr... ok. do a search, dumbass.

EDIT: Here! took me a second to find this... http://www.gtrowner.com/induction.html


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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (csufweed)

After cutting up my stock filter, attaching the 2820 to the filter neck and attaching the factory filter endcap to the K&N w/ screws, it fits 100% like factory. I'm very pleased w/ it.
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (csufweed)

durr... ok. do a search, dumbass.
Wow - would you have the courage to be that much of a jerk in real life? I suspect not. What age are you - 16?

I presume you are implying that the honda-tech archive also contains proof of your assertion? All I ever seen is the same assertion again and again. You are presumably going to tell me next that my aluminum flywheel is going to warp.

EDIT: Here! took me a second to find this... http://www.gtrowner.com/induction.html
Interesting comparison - one of the only ones I have ever seen. I have no way
of judging the validy of the test, however. It looks like a non-blind single-run single-sample test with questionable assumptions. What type of dust particles did they use and do the relate in any way to the type of particles seen during typical driving conditions. Also, the foam filter they use is a disposable one. Even the page you refer to has doubts about the test.


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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 03:52 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (norice)

Why don't you (or others) do a kind of "Great air filter test" yourself. We are also curious about the results. If you just look at the "holes" in foam filters, you'll be convinced....
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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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durr... ok. do a search, dumbass.

Wow - would you have the courage to be that much of a jerk in real life? I suspect not. What age are you - 16?
why not? afterall...

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Old Jul 27, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (csufweed)

BAWHHAHAHAHAHa, damnit that was some funny ****, I'm have trouble breathing here
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (csufweed)

I was actually looking for evidence. Making the same unsubstantiated point multiple times does not count as evidence.

durr... ok. do a search, dumbass.

EDIT: Here! took me a second to find this... http://www.gtrowner.com/induction.html


[Modified by csufweed, 9:17 PM 7/26/2002]
Originally taken from this article (Filters are for a Supra MkIII)
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/fil...t/2/index.html

Which in turn was origially taken from this article (original Japanese)
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/fil...t/1/index.html


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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Air filter choices... K&N E-2427, K&N RU-2820, or Comptech foam? (norice)

Interesting comparison - one of the only ones I have ever seen. I have no way
of judging the validy of the test, however. It looks like a non-blind single-run single-sample test with questionable assumptions. What type of dust particles did they use and do the relate in any way to the type of particles seen during typical driving conditions. Also, the foam filter they use is a disposable one. Even the page you refer to has doubts about the test.
Anyone read Japanese?
http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/fil...t/1/vacuum.jpg



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