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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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Default JDM ITR FRONT END CONVERSION LEGAL OR NOT???????

JUST BOUGHT A TEG FROM AUCTION NEEDS CHP INSPECTION, FRONT END STRIPED THINKING B
OUT PUTTING ON A JDM FRONT ,WILL I PASS WITH JDM FRONT CONVERSION ?

So anyone got ticketed for jdm front???
has anyone pass CHP inspection with jdm front?
all of these questions are regarding Ca...


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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:35 AM
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yes sir
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd94teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes sir</TD></TR></TABLE>


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NO it is NOT LEGAL (technically speaking). None of the components (hood, bumper support, headlights, etc) are US DOT certified meaning that its NOT legal. For example, there is no reflective material anywhere on front end. It is REQUIRED that the car have AMBER reflectors in the FRONT and RED reflectors in the REAR. This will get you an automatic FAIL in some states. Some states might not pass it just based on the fact that the headlights do not have a DOT stamping on them. Some states wont care about any of it and pass you.

So to answer the question... it is technically NOT legal and you run the risk of NOT passing depending on what state you are in.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:03 AM
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it all depends on how much you invest into making it look right. if you spend the money to get it done right you should pass
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JOHN WAYNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


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NO it is NOT LEGAL (technically speaking). None of the components (hood, bumper support, headlights, etc) are US DOT certified meaning that its NOT legal. For example, there is no reflective material anywhere on front end. It is REQUIRED that the car have AMBER reflectors in the FRONT and RED reflectors in the REAR. This will get you an automatic FAIL in some states. Some states might not pass it just based on the fact that the headlights do not have a DOT stamping on them. Some states wont care about any of it and pass you.

So to answer the question... it is technically NOT legal and you run the risk of NOT passing depending on what state you are in.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeRightBack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it all depends on how much you invest into making it look right. if you spend the money to get it done right you should pass</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless you live in Cali I can't see anyone failing an inspection for a JDM ITR front, but technically its illegal no matter what (not DOT approved).

OP you might not pass since you live out there. Not sure if I'd take the risk...
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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i say its worth the risk, you'll simply have to find someone who will pass it if you have a problem.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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This is one question I've always wondered about. I'd be mo-pissed if I spent all that $$ just to have it denide on an inspection. But at least that something we don't have to be concerened with here in Alabama.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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JOHN WAYNE = bingo!
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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John Wayne for President!!!! I think it says somewhere in every DMV Rules that any modification to a vehicle from OEM, theres a cosequence or ticket for it.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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the headlights are not dot appoved because they dim to the wrong side. You may "pass" with a jdm front end but I dont think it would be 100% legal in any state.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Not with a toothpick for a bumper support

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not with a toothpick for a bumper support

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Isn't there a thread in the archives somewhere about modifying the bumper a bit to fit the usdm bumper support?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Yes right here from markpaco

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=488266 although pix links are dead
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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well im in CA and there are many JDM front integras, JDM front ITR, and RHD JDM front integras (including type R) running around so i would say. it is legal. BUT technically speaking John Wayne could be right (not saying he is or isnt). cuz i dont have a JDM front on my R so...
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Thank god i dont live in CA.....thats some bs!
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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CHP inspection for title is for VIN inspection. They are making sure you don't have stolen parts on the car. If the engine in the car has a different vin or a different serial then you must provide receipts. For the front end they might ask you for a receipt to prove it is not stolen. They can tell the difference between OEM parts and aftermarket OEM replacement parts. Chances are they will not even notice that the front end is not USDM. Since your shell was a theft recovery the CHP will review the recovery report and will know what was missing when the car was recovered. They will see your front end and will know it is OEM and not aftermarket OEM. They will ask for a receipts from where you bought the parts from. If no receipt is produced they will take your parts off and will hold them and you can only recover them thru a judge/court appeal.

So buy your front end from somewhere reputable, do your conversion, cross your fingers and go to CHP.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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You might pass the CHP fine, but you won't pass the brake n light inspection.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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ahhhhh..... Who Carezzzz if i want it, its goin on there Duhhh
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 12:24 AM
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It will pass the brake and light.

I was titling a 95 civic coupe once and it had jdm plastic headlights and oem clear corners. The inspection guy said you need the front blinkers to blink yellow/orange, I swapped the bulbs to orange bulbs and he was ok. He even aligned the beam of the jdm head lights. He did not say ish about the non dot lights.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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will not pass chp inspection, the inspector looks at the headlights and sees no dot on it and fails it automatically


the headlights have to be approved by dot= department of transportation

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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well...... the hell with DOT.... so how if you use....for say "body kit" and its not even DOT as far as headlights.........what if you imported your car from japan, i seen cars been imported in cali and street legal.
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JOHN WAYNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


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NO it is NOT LEGAL (technically speaking). None of the components (hood, bumper support, headlights, etc) are US DOT certified meaning that its NOT legal. For example, there is no reflective material anywhere on front end. It is REQUIRED that the car have AMBER reflectors in the FRONT and RED reflectors in the REAR. This will get you an automatic FAIL in some states. Some states might not pass it just based on the fact that the headlights do not have a DOT stamping on them. Some states wont care about any of it and pass you.

So to answer the question... it is technically NOT legal and you run the risk of NOT passing depending on what state you are in.

/thread</TD></TR></TABLE>

Living in a country where vehicle regulation and standard are really strict, I can totally agree to the statement above. A quick visual insection of cars that don't meet minimum safety requirement such as the ones stated above could lead to failure. It also really depends on who's testing a well.

In Japan, the inspection authorities that range from extremely strict to very relaxed. If you hit the extremely strict ones, unless your car is essecially all stock and in perfect condition, you will fail. Conversely, if you get inspected by a very relaxed authority, you could probably pass a track ready race car with only the very minimum street legal accesories (working headlights, tail lights, turn signals, and two front seats).

We're in the process of doing this now a a matter of fact, with our team car which is a 1992 Rover Mini Cooper. It has essecially no interior except for the minimum required by law (two fron seats, a steering wheel, seat belts, and a speedometer).
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