CRX won't crank with key, but will push start? HELP!!
All of a sudden my 91 CRX DX won't crank with key. Engine Doesn't turn over, No sound at all, not even a clicking sound. All the dash lights come on as normal. I can push start it and it runs perfect. Battery has voltage, the wire to the starter looks good. Please help.. Thanks
Starter.
Check connections (power and signal) on starter. Test starter. Replace starter.
Modified by jdmcars_dot_com at 10:07 PM 6/15/2008
Check connections (power and signal) on starter. Test starter. Replace starter.
Modified by jdmcars_dot_com at 10:07 PM 6/15/2008
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Could be a bad ground too. I had that happen once after doing a swap. It was good enough to run the car, but not enough to run the starter.
Check the gound @ t-stat housing. and other engine grounds. (run your own ground if necessary)
Check the starter signal wire to the starter. Check for voltage when the key is turned to the start position.
If you have voltage at the signal wire and from the battery, and your engine grounds are good, then your starter is no good.
If starter has voltage to the large cable from the battery and has the proper grounds but has no voltage @ the signal wire then check output from the ign. switch. No signal and your switch is bad. If it has voltage from the switch and not to the starter then check your wiring.
Check the starter signal wire to the starter. Check for voltage when the key is turned to the start position.
If you have voltage at the signal wire and from the battery, and your engine grounds are good, then your starter is no good.
If starter has voltage to the large cable from the battery and has the proper grounds but has no voltage @ the signal wire then check output from the ign. switch. No signal and your switch is bad. If it has voltage from the switch and not to the starter then check your wiring.
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If your battery is not charged then it will not have enough power to turn the engine over.
Make sure your battery is fully charged before any further diagnosis.
Make sure your battery is fully charged before any further diagnosis.
Just like sgallagher and Disco Monkey said.
I just had the same problem last friday. I checked the starter by disconnecting the 2pin plug from the distributor. I disconnected the small wire that leads to the starter solenoid. I then ran a jumper wire from the solenoid, to the (+) of the battery to check the starter is good, and it was. A simple wire with alligator clips is what I used.
Anyway, with my car, it was the clutch interrupt switch. An easy way to check that is to first, MAKE SURE THE CAR IS IN NEUTRAL (if you didn't unplug the 2pin connector from the distributor)
Then, go underneath the dash, look up the clutch pedal, wayyyy up. A cylinder looking switch is there. Depress the button that makes contact with the clutch pedal, and try to turn the car over. If it does, then that's the problem. I was in a hurry to get to work, so did a quick fix. I put a bolt through a small sqaure opening on that part of the clutch pedal where it contacts the switch, and tightened it on the other side with the nut. That worked. I'd do pics, but getting decent shots would be unlikely.
I just had the same problem last friday. I checked the starter by disconnecting the 2pin plug from the distributor. I disconnected the small wire that leads to the starter solenoid. I then ran a jumper wire from the solenoid, to the (+) of the battery to check the starter is good, and it was. A simple wire with alligator clips is what I used.
Anyway, with my car, it was the clutch interrupt switch. An easy way to check that is to first, MAKE SURE THE CAR IS IN NEUTRAL (if you didn't unplug the 2pin connector from the distributor)
Then, go underneath the dash, look up the clutch pedal, wayyyy up. A cylinder looking switch is there. Depress the button that makes contact with the clutch pedal, and try to turn the car over. If it does, then that's the problem. I was in a hurry to get to work, so did a quick fix. I put a bolt through a small sqaure opening on that part of the clutch pedal where it contacts the switch, and tightened it on the other side with the nut. That worked. I'd do pics, but getting decent shots would be unlikely.
I learned the hard way with a small Ground wire, took me about 3 days to figure it out! lol
Just be sure to triple check everything, take your time have a friend help as well.
good luck
Just be sure to triple check everything, take your time have a friend help as well.
good luck
Little help? I have a manual transmission '94 Accord Ex with similar symptoms. Yesterday morning I turned the key in the ignition and ..nothing.
I was able to push start the car by popping the clutch and have been able to drive it to a few places without any adverse symptoms but have to push start it each time after I turn the key off.
I checked all the fuses in interior and in the engine compartment and they're good. Removed the battery and starter and had them checked at Autozone, both checked out as good. I noticed the little plastic pad that pushes against the clutch pedal ignition switch had broken off from old age so I went to a Honda dealerships and replaced it but that did nothing.
Should I ground or jump the clutch pedal switch and how exactly do i do that?
I was able to push start the car by popping the clutch and have been able to drive it to a few places without any adverse symptoms but have to push start it each time after I turn the key off.
I checked all the fuses in interior and in the engine compartment and they're good. Removed the battery and starter and had them checked at Autozone, both checked out as good. I noticed the little plastic pad that pushes against the clutch pedal ignition switch had broken off from old age so I went to a Honda dealerships and replaced it but that did nothing.
Should I ground or jump the clutch pedal switch and how exactly do i do that?
you can bypass the switch by simply deleting the switch and twisting the two wires together. The only problem you may have is that your car will start without the clutch engaged.
Definitely check your clutch safety switch, for integrity. If it looks good, then try to bypass it. Just make sure your out of gear when you do. You'll be able to crank it up with it in gear. If that's not it, check for grounds, power, and fuses. I've had many a blown fuse be the culprit and coincidently the part that kicked my butt for a while until i figured out that was it. The Navy always taught me, check fuses, circuit breakers, and power/grounds. I worked on E2-C Hawkeyes in the Navy. I still to this day, sometimes forget to check my fuses, but it's not very often.
Thought it was the clutch pedal switch because a bypass started the car but the new switch I installed didn't help. The actual culprit was the little plastic pad that pushes in the plunger on the clutch pedal switch which is barely visible up inside the hinge bracket for the clutch pedal. The plastic pad was $2.25 at the Honda dealership and I got it into place by sticking it to the end of a long Philips screwdriver with double sided mounting tape then pushing in the clutch half way and threading it through the small opening. It was really tricky. I had my head in the floorboard and was wearing a headlamp so I could see up in the dark area inside the clutch pedal bracket but it was worth it. Hope this helps someone out there, it had me stumped.
PS - I took pics but don't know how to upload them here from my computer as it is only giving me an option to insert a pic from a URL in the post.
PS - I took pics but don't know how to upload them here from my computer as it is only giving me an option to insert a pic from a URL in the post.
This stopper seemed to be made of wax. Its the same part that is used on the brake pedal to keep the brake lights from staying on. So if you have either of these problems get at least 3 of these parts because if one goes the others are soon to follow as was my case.
(If you notice some blue/black crayon looking material on your floor underneath your feet) BINGO!
Now the clutch pedal has a stop but the switch is farther up the pedal arm. If you get on your back on the floor underneath your steering column with you feet sticking out of the door you will be able to do this and save a minimum of $70 (starter + core) not including labor if you can't DIY.
If you feel the switch button, then directly across from that, up the cultch pedal arm there is a small protrusion. If you feel a hole then I'm golden. If you have that stop in there then you better keep troubleshooting. (Don't take stop out because if it's the old original then it will just crumble and now you have 2 problems.)
P. S. I had to go through too much (registration process) just to post this helpfully tidbit of info, but if it helps that 1 diligent Honda owner then it was worth while. Holla!
Thought it was the clutch pedal switch because a bypass started the car but the new switch I installed didn't help. The actual culprit was the little plastic pad that pushes in the plunger on the clutch pedal switch which is barely visible up inside the hinge bracket for the clutch pedal. The plastic pad was $2.25 at the Honda dealership and I got it into place by sticking it to the end of a long Philips screwdriver with double sided mounting tape then pushing in the clutch half way and threading it through the small opening. It was really tricky. I had my head in the floorboard and was wearing a headlamp so I could see up in the dark area inside the clutch pedal bracket but it was worth it. Hope this helps someone out there, it had me stumped.
PS - I took pics but don't know how to upload them here from my computer as it is only giving me an option to insert a pic from a URL in the post.
PS - I took pics but don't know how to upload them here from my computer as it is only giving me an option to insert a pic from a URL in the post.
Definitely check your clutch safety switch, for integrity. If it looks good, then try to bypass it. Just make sure your out of gear when you do. You'll be able to crank it up with it in gear. If that's not it, check for grounds, power, and fuses. I've had many a blown fuse be the culprit and coincidently the part that kicked my butt for a while until i figured out that was it. The Navy always taught me, check fuses, circuit breakers, and power/grounds. I worked on E2-C Hawkeyes in the Navy. I still to this day, sometimes forget to check my fuses, but it's not very often.
CHECK THIS FIRST!
Its the easiest and least expensive fix.
Check the gound @ t-stat housing. and other engine grounds. (run your own ground if necessary)
Check the starter signal wire to the starter. Check for voltage when the key is turned to the start position.
If you have voltage at the signal wire and from the battery, and your engine grounds are good, then your starter is no good.
If starter has voltage to the large cable from the battery and has the proper grounds but has no voltage @ the signal wire then check output from the ign. switch. No signal and your switch is bad. If it has voltage from the switch and not to the starter then check your wiring.
Check the starter signal wire to the starter. Check for voltage when the key is turned to the start position.
If you have voltage at the signal wire and from the battery, and your engine grounds are good, then your starter is no good.
If starter has voltage to the large cable from the battery and has the proper grounds but has no voltage @ the signal wire then check output from the ign. switch. No signal and your switch is bad. If it has voltage from the switch and not to the starter then check your wiring.
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