98vtec

No more individual topics of "what cam is best" will be accepted from this point on.

Rules:

1) DO NOT POST WITHOUT EXPERIENCE
2) GIVE DETAILED INFORMATION - why did you pick your cam?
3) PROVIDE EMPIRICAL (real) EVIDENCE OF HOW THE ENGINE PERFORMS
- Dyno charts, time slips, anything
4) THIS IS NOT FOR COMPARING DYNO NUMBERS
- different dyno's read differently. read the GRAPHS
5) <FONT SIZE="5">NO COMMENTS PLEASE</FONT>

Offtopic posts will be deleted.

SkoundrelUSA

UPDATE: New Dyno sheet. Says Flywheel power, but its whp.


Love my Pro 1s. Make my car sound like a mustang.

Had Skunk2 reg Stage 2s first (good deal) but wanted to try out the Pro Series. Also my friend was selling them.

Chart (THIS WAS ON A MUSTANG DYNO)



B18C1 block stock sleeves 82mm
USDM ITR pistons
stock crank/rods
ACL bearings
B16A head milled .020
Skunk2 Pro Series 1 cams, Skunk2 cam gears
Supertech VS/retainers, stock valves
AEBS IM ported to ITR TB w/Hondata gasket
Profab header to 2.5" straight crush bent piping
3" intake w/BPi flow stack
chipped P28 tuned on crome by xenocron
shaved GSR crank pulley
310cc Precision injectors, Walbro 190lph pump, B&M FPR
93 Octane
MSD 6AL

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1869088

Had this setup for over a year and still never went to the track lol


Modified by SkoundrelUSA at 10:44 AM 5/7/2008

0VtecKiDD

CUSTOMER CARS Skunk2 Cams

Stock Internals GSR Engine
SKunk2 Stage 1s
Skunk2 PRO Intake manifold
Rage/Hytech Replica Header
2.5in Magnaflow Catalytic Convertor
AEM CAI
Tuned with Crome Pro


MY CAR
RS Machines Sleeved LS block 84.5mm
89mm LS CRANK
CP Pistons
Eagle Rods
ACL Race Bearings
CTR Crank Pulley
DFE Enterprises Ported ITR Head
Rocket Motorsports valvesprings and Retainers
AEBS manifold ported by DFE Enterprises
310CC Injectors
Skunk2 Pro Series 70mm Throttle Body
Skunk2 PRO 3 Camshafts
Rage Header/Hytech Production Tri-Y header
Compression 12.2:1




Modified by VtecKiDD at 7:07 PM 3/7/2008

b19coupe

Skunk2 Pro2 camshafts.
LS Block sleeved to 85mm by Dan Benson.
Brian Crower 92mm crankshaft.
Cunningham LS rods.
Import Builders custom Wiseco pistons ~ 11.5:1 compression.
B16 head ported by Portflow.
Import Builders ported ITR intake manifold.
RPM 70mm throttle body.
Custom 3" intake with Prototype velocity stack.
SMSP B19 header.
Mugen B-pipe-no cat or muffler.
I picked these cams because I heard that I could rev my motor to 10,000 rpm with them
OK-I chose them because I have had some success with them in the past.
The motor is in an 01 dd ITR and ran 12.3's@ 110mph on slicks at CMI on 3/09/2008.






Modified by b19coupe at 12:42 AM 3/10/2008

b19coupe

Toda C camshafts.
ITR block sleeved and bored to 81.5mm.
Stock ITR crank-Crower rods-ACL rod and main bearings.
Wiseco 81.5mm 5cc dome pistons.
3" 'Magic' intake-70-68mm RPM Services throttle body.
RC 440 cc injectors
Import Builders ported ITR intake manifold.
Import Builders ported ITR head-stock ITR valves
(Portflow redid the valve job at my request and picked up a few CFM)
Portflow springs and retainers.
Hytech ITR header.
Mugen Twin Loop cat back system-no cat.
1818.7 cc's of screaming VTEC Power
I chose those cams at the time because they offered bigger non-vtec lobes and substantially sized VTEC lobes.

mar778c

iTrader: (1)

B18C motor

Blox A's
JG Cam Gears
Edelbrock Pro Flow Header with 2.5" collector mod
3" Kteller SS exhaust
Port match AEBS manifold
68 mm Professional Products TB
B18C1 short block
B16 head stock
81.5 mm RS Machine Pistons
Hastings piston rings
Honda main bearings 0.0015" clearance
acl rod bearings 0.0015" clearance
2000 B16A oil and water pumps
built by me
Tuned by me with BRE

187 whp
134 tq

92TypeR

Fuel is 90% tuned, could be better, very little ignition tuning (used my Pro2 map as a basemap), no cam gear tuning, left them at +2/+5 where the Pro2's liked them.

Both the Pro2's and BC5's were fully tuned, fuel, ignition, and cam gear.

*ignore the run titles, forgot to reset them*
Pro3 (blue) vs Pro2

Pro3 (blue) vs BC5

*note* BC5's were on when I had a 65mm T1R, only change in the setup


Relevant Info:
85mm Benson Sleeved B18C
-87.2 GSR Crank micropolished/balanced
-85mm 12:1 CP Pistons
-Eagle H-Beams
ITR PR3 head
-85mm chambers
-milled .008"
-3 angle valve grind
-Supertech Valves
-Supertech Springs/Retainers
Comptech Race Header
T1R 70mm exhaust
Password JDM CF Intake
stock ITR TB
stock ITR IM
Tuned on Crome Pro

I did not use a degree wheel to install them, was in a time crunch, but as a side note, I wouldn't run these cams at 0,0 unless they were degreed properly, they're big, if you are in a hurry, you can always advance the exhaust cam to help prevent V2V and P2V.

BTW she idles and warms up like stock.

EKAndy

B18C5 block
Sleved & built by Darton to 84mm
Eagle rods
Wiceco pistons 12:1
Stock JDM ITR crank

JDM ITR Head
Stock porting
Stock IM & TB
Thermal IM gasket
Buddy Club stg IV cams
BC Cam gears
BC flat faced valves (+.2-.3 comp)
BC valve spring
KMS Ti retainers
440cc injectors
Pasword JDM intake
Rage knock off header
MSD ignition
Hondata S300
Tuned my InlinePro in VA.

Made 219 whp and 144 tq on this set up.



I was hoping to at least brake 225 whp with my mods. Do these numbers seem accurate to everyone? Any feedback is welcome.


Modified by EKAndy at 12:16 PM 3/9/2008


Modified by EKAndy at 12:20 PM 3/9/2008


Modified by EKAndy at 1:04 PM 3/9/2008

Furyof4

1st gen b16 block
0.25 over ctr pistons, .015" OTH
acl bearings
00' itr head
Headgames valve job
RM valvetrain and valves
BC 3+ cams
Evolution Ind cam gears
Stock p30 I/m and 60mm t/b
jg edlebrock header w/ 2.5 collector mod
SMSP 2.5 exhaust w/ 200 cell cat, magnaflow res and muffler
Generic 3" intake ~20" long w/ PR velocity stack & k&n filter
Tuned by John Kerr (JK-tuning) @ Mcnews Dyno
Afr's were off (11.5 @WOT) when tuned b/c of BRE dataloging problems, not known at the time, not John's fault.
167hp/ 116trq

I picked these cams because I liked what I read about their good off VTEC power.
Throttle response is awesome on this motor!

Humble Performance

All Motor Stock Bore size on pump gas

-B series 81.00mm GSR
-PUMP GAS
-12.5:1 Compression
-Alaniz Cylinder head
-Rocket Motorsports Custom "Humble Cams"
-HONDATA S300
-Shitbox DC Sports Header
-Edelbrock IM
-Blox T/B
-DSM 380 silver top injectors
-HONDATA IM gasket

Big thanks to Joe Alaniz for an awesome head and ROCKET for the cams !
More tuning still to come . . .




UPDATE 240hp/157tq




Modified by Humble Performance at 5:45 PM 3/17/2008

98vtec

85mm bore
stock 87.2 gsr crank
13.6 IB superdupers
DPR/Racingflow itr head
buddyclub stg 4's
SMSP HEADER
JENVEY ITB'S
FULL EXHAUST WITH CAT
run 197 is skunk (blue)
run 237 is BuddyClub (red)
RUNS WERE MADE ON THE SAME DAY, SAME CAR

By Tbone

oldskool teggy

yellow line is open header,
blue line is 2.5" mandrel, straight through exhaust with test pipe

cams used: skunk2 stg 2
lsvtec
pr3 pistons
PnP b16 head
Toda header
Hondata
65mm t-body

I chose these cams because they are proven to work great and tuner has numerous experience with them. beat my CTR cams in low/mid range power as well.

Tuned by B19coupe "todd" from CAT


Modified by oldskool teggy at 12:09 AM 5/7/2008

UncleD

iTrader: (2)

A good customer of mine:

-87x85
- 11.5~ish compression
-Victor X IM
-Portflow head(std. sz valve)
- RM M24xx cams
- RM SL valvetrain
-SMSP B19 header
-SMSP cat
-T1-R exhaust
...tuned at RedZone




Modified by clean rice at 8:06 AM 3/16/2008

0VtecKiDD

Heres another car that just keeps making GOOD SOLID power out of a stock internals engine. Proof that just a GOOD TUNED SETUP Makes power.

Setup:

B18C5 Engine
Skunk2 PRO Intake Manifold
Batlground Hytech Replica Header
Batlground Crome Pro ECU
STOCK ITR camshafts




Modified by VtecKiDD at 8:36 PM 3/21/2008

0mtber

iTrader: (2)

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Bottom end:

.25mm os oem jdm itr pistons
p72 gsr rods resized with arp rod bolts
micropolished crank
resurfaced .005" I believe
New OEM main & rod bearings, rings, seals, gaskets, water/oil pumps,

t-belt, etc.

Up top:

Portflow head
Supertech black nitride flat valves, springs, and retainers
Portflow bronze guides
OEM valve stem seals, seals, o-rings, etc.
M22x
Golden eagle cam gears
Skunk2 intake manifold
PRR intake manifold gasket
RMF Header
SMSP 300 cell cat/flex pipe to 2.5" exaust
AEM Hybrid CAI w/Bpi Flowstack
370cc injectors

Trans:

DIY Jdm itr trans (gsr w/b16 2nd&3rd itr lsd)
Act prolite flywheel
Action 1ms clutch

m22x final tune (+3in 0ex) 194/128



Since it didnt hit 200 I decided to test some cams.

Buddy Club 3+ (+2in +2ex) 185/123



Skunk2 Pro 1 (+5in +6ex) 192/128



overlay of all 3



All 3 sets of cams were tuned to their full potential with my setup on S200.The m22x's and pro 1's were both degreed, but only the pro 1's were dead on after degreeing (I advanced +1 on both just to see). The m22's degreed in @ +2in and +4ex but the end result was different. So it seems as though the motor's hitting a wall @ 190hp.

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oldskool teggy

bump this to keep it going!

DA_JDM

I have my dyno appointment on the may 18th... FINALLY!!!

I lost my dyno of last year but this was my set-up:

JDM ITR b18c 81.5mm
12:1 Wiseco Pistons
Crower Rods
P&P JDM ITR head
ITR TB
JUN III cams
JUN valvetrain
Spoon cam gears
Ferrea standard size valves
Ported ITR IM
AEM 3" CAI
RS*R GT2 catback
SMSP Header
450cc Injectors

Base tune on 94octane with the cam gears set to 0/0

215whp/135wtq Mustang Dyno!!!


2008 new set-up:

Same ITR Block sleeve to 82mm
12:5 Wiseco pistons
Same ITR head
JUN III
Same JUN valvetrain
Ferrea valves
Skunk2 68mm TB
Same ported ITR IM port-match to the new 68mm TB
Hondata IM gasket
450cc

Hope to break the 225whp and 140wtq mark next week-end

Dyno sheet to follow!!!

ChaseIntegra

For all the guys with stock motors still:

CTR intake cam
GSR exhaust cam
stock B18C block/head
Megan 2.5" header/collector
60mm cat-back
2.5" test pipe
Ebay cold air
Skunk2 IM
Stock throttlebody
Mugen chipped P28
Untuned

186whp/136 tq
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm...60983

I'm still working on a built set-up on the side!

Sean5826

bump keep this going!

jonathan13

&lt;br/&gt;

As for choosing the cams i did, i picked skunk2 tuner series stage one because i wanted a little more power but didn't have the money for a valvetrain upgrade... which is a very horrible reason to pick a cam so everyone out there DO NOT HOLD YOURSELF BACK!!

here is the setup..

b18a1 block, crank, and rods
pr3 81.5mm pistons... ended up yielding right at 12:1 compression
ARP head studs, main bolts, and rod bolts
itr oil pump
new water pump
Golden Eagle headgasket
b16a2 head
Skunk2 tuner series stage 1 cams
Inline pro cam gears set to +2, +2
Skunk2 pro series intake manifold
hondata intake manifold gasket
68mm throttle body
jdm dc 4-1 header with apexi WS exhaust
AEM one piece cold air intake

I hit decent numbers but my valvetrain still held me back because i am only able to rev to around 8200.

I have already began the next build... it includes the following...

same bottom end
97 itr head
toda dual valve springs
ferrera retainers
walbro 255lph fuel pump
blox fuel pressure regulator
RC 440 cc saturated injectors
Golden eagle head gasket with the middle layer removed.. ends up yielding around 12.3:1 compression
Skunk2 pro series stage 2 cams
Buddy club cam gears.

justinsane

bump for cool thread

turbociv910

b16b CTR stock long block
saamco intake arm
bpi stack
b16A TB
dc sports jdm 4-1 header
s2 test pipe
motec m400
t1 cam trigger kit

egb20v

those are very respectable #'s for a stock b16b IMO

egb20v

lol guess this thread is dead ooops

Frankacura

LSVTEC
11.9:1
Type R IM
Tri-Y headers
Hondata S200

CTR CAMS:




95 teg 2550 pounds W/Driver