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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Has anybody used these control arms yet? I seen them while browsing eBay for new LCAs since my Omni bushings are shot. They utilize polyurethane bushings and looking similar to most aftermarket LCAs, and best of all they are cheaper than other manufacturers using poly bushings.


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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> since my Omni bushings are shot. </TD></TR></TABLE>



have you tried calling omnipower and asking for a replacement? it seems if you make a lot of noise, they will replace anything.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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If you really wanna replace them you can buy a set of PIC rear LCA's for $100 on their website...
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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I think 3 of the 4 sets of OMNI rear LCAs I've installed for people have had bad bushings. It's a shame.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think 3 of the 4 sets of OMNI rear LCAs I've installed for people have had bad bushings. It's a shame.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



have you tried calling omnipower and asking for a replacement? it seems if you make a lot of noise, they will replace anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I emailed David at Omnipower this morning. Unfortunately my warranty was expired. But he will give me credit towards the 3rd gen LCAs. Basically old LCAs + difference between how much I paid for the old ones subtracted from $219 = new LCAs. So if I am understanding him correctly, I get a new set of LCAs for $114 + old LCAs.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think 3 of the 4 sets of OMNI rear LCAs I've installed for people have had bad bushings. It's a shame.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why we changed the design and now manufacture them in the USA to ensure better quality. Ironically the 1000 or so sets we rejected that had bushings that will fail prematurely were just sold off to another company after they changed the color and did some different machine work.

our current design has adjustable swaybar mounting (in the correct place) ABS brake line mounting and a modular bushing design.



the ebay one thats pictured above doesnt have the sway bar mounting in the correct spot which means you have to purchase an end link to hook up your sway bar on an eg or dc. Also there is no provision for the ABS lines. By the time you add up all the additional parts you need to get everything hooked up right its the same price as ours without the adj sway bar mounting and ABS mounting. classic case of pay now or pay later.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats why we changed the design and now manufacture them in the USA to ensure better quality.
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Yeah, right! Trying to mimic Function7 again, eh? How come they don't say "Made in the USA" ?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ironically the 1000 or so sets we rejected that had bushings that will fail prematurely were just sold off to another company after they changed the color and did some different machine work.
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How about divulge who you "sold" them to so the fellow HT members stay away from them?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
our current design has adjustable swaybar mounting (in the correct place) ABS brake line mounting and a modular bushing design.

the ebay one thats pictured above doesnt have the sway bar mounting in the correct spot which means you have to purchase an end link to hook up your sway bar on an eg or dc. Also there is no provision for the ABS lines. By the time you add up all the additional parts you need to get everything hooked up right its the same price as ours without the adj sway bar mounting and ABS mounting. classic case of pay now or pay later. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Copy cat!


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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, right! Trying to mimic Function7 again, eh? How come they don't say "Made in the USA" ?

How about divulge who you "sold" them to so the fellow HT members stay away from them?

Copy cat!


Modified by DavidR at 2:33 AM 10/12/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your posts on this forum have pushed me away from EVER thinking about buying a Function7 product.

You can say whatever you want, it is a free country but releaze that when you sell stuff the things you say reflect not only on you but also on the stuff you sell. Pretty much you become a representitive of the products you sell, and IMO you are horrible representation of function7.

Just something to think about.

Omni man never said HE sold them to anyone. Just that the company who manufactures his lcas sold them to some one else.

And poly failing is nothing new, the ES kit fails extremly quickly, and when you call them about it they say "well that is too bad, you must have done something wrong". When nothing was done wrong on the installation.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your posts on this forum have pushed me away from EVER thinking about buying a Function7 product.

You can say whatever you want, it is a free country but releaze that when you sell stuff the things you say reflect not only on you but also on the stuff you sell. Pretty much you become a representitive of the products you sell, and IMO you are horrible representation of function7.

Just something to think about.

Omni man never said HE sold them to anyone. Just that the company who manufactures his lcas sold them to some one else.

And poly failing is nothing new, the ES kit fails extremly quickly, and when you call them about it they say "well that is too bad, you must have done something wrong". When nothing was done wrong on the installation.</TD></TR></TABLE>


dizzamn DAVIDR you got PWNED dawg hahahaha
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your posts on this forum have pushed me away from EVER thinking about buying a Function7 product.

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If I can be of further assistance to you with Function7 products, let me know. I am separate from Function7 though, no need to drag them down with your "pushing" away of me. Just a thought.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can say whatever you want, it is a free country but releaze that when you sell stuff the things you say reflect not only on you but also on the stuff you sell. Pretty much you become a representitive of the products you sell, and IMO you are horrible representation of function7.

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Sorry you get mad over me calling out copy cats around here. Also, use spell check... I believe you meant "realize" and "representative".

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Just something to think about.
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Thanks for your feedback.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Omni man never said HE sold them to anyone. Just that the company who manufactures his lcas sold them to some one else.

And poly failing is nothing new, the ES kit fails extremly quickly, and when you call them about it they say "well that is too bad, you must have done something wrong". When nothing was done wrong on the installation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My point in the post was pointing out that Omni admitted their products were faulty, but instead of taking a loss and recycling the parts they sold them to another sucker to sell to unsuspecting Honda enthusiasts. In fact, he DID sell them to someone else, just not an individual!

Function7, nor ProjectZuM would NEVER do a thing like that.

Ohh, and I believe you meant to spell "extremely" above.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If I can be of further assistance to you with Function7 products, let me know. I am separate from Function7 though, no need to drag them down with your "pushing" away of me. Just a thought.

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Well then things make a lot more sense. You don't understand how people work and how preception is reality.

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Sorry you get mad over me calling out copy cats around here. Also, use spell check... I believe you meant "realize" and "representative".

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Don't assume things. I didn't get mad about anything. Just pointing out that your countless posts like these are irritating, and IMO i think it is bad for your business and function7's business. But feel free to do as you like. Sorry about the spelling, it isn't my strong suit and i must have missed the red underlines on those words.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My point in the post was pointing out that Omni admitted their products were faulty, but instead of taking a loss and recycling the parts they sold them to another sucker to sell to unsuspecting Honda enthusiasts. In fact, he DID sell them to someone else, just not an individual!

Function7, nor ProjectZuM would NEVER do a thing like that.

Ohh, and I believe you meant to spell "extremely" above.

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Reading comprehension is something that YOU should work on. And also maybe the way the business to business transactions work.

If my supplier of widgets sends my a batch of 200 widgets and i inspect them and find them all to be flawed, I AM NOT nor would any business, just going to take those 200 widgets and count them - in the books.

I or any business would send them BACK to my supplier. And want 200 more widgets that are not flawed. What they do with the flawed widgets from that point on has NOTHING to do with me.

If my supplier sells those 200 widgets to some other company and they accept them, that has nothing to do with me.

That is business to business sales.

And thanks again from being grammer teacher, great way to try and get things off track.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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The latest Omnipower arms are more attractive to me than the Function 7 arms for the main reason that you can apparently use an OEM sway bar end link with them - correct me if I'm wrong Steve.

You still won't catch me using aftermarket control arms though.

Fight nice boys, but I'll be watching.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Well, David from Omni had an exchange offer for the 3rd gen LCAs. Basically, I paid the difference from what I paid for the 2nd gen LCAs subtracted from $219. The new LCAs are on the way.

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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The latest Omnipower arms are more attractive to me than the Function 7 arms for the main reason that you can apparently use an OEM sway bar end link with them - correct me if I'm wrong Steve.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes that is correct, the OEM sway bar end link will thread/screw right into our control arms. We also have 2 mounting points for DC-2's equiped with ABS so you dont have to zip tie the line on. Also to clairify we manufacture our rear lower arms in the USA and purchase the material, 6061-T6 (extruded bar) certified Aluminum from Alcoa. Each control arm is machined on a HAAS CNC and goes through several quality control checks before being hand assembled by myself.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The latest Omnipower arms are more attractive to me than the Function 7 arms for the main reason that you can apparently use an OEM sway bar end link with them - correct me if I'm wrong Steve.

You still won't catch me using aftermarket control arms though.

Fight nice boys, but I'll be watching.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm using stock ITR sway bar with stock endlinks with my F7 LCA's... I don't know why ppl think/say that the stock endlinks wont work with F7's...
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Each control arm is machined on a HAAS CNC and goes through several quality control checks before being hand assembled by myself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So, if the LCA I am getting just "falls" apart, I will know who to blame.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC4KiD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm using stock ITR sway bar with stock endlinks with my F7 LCA's... I don't know why ppl think/say that the stock endlinks wont work with F7's...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because you weren't able to do so prior to the latest revision, apparently. I wasn't aware until now.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also to clairify we manufacture our rear lower arms in the USA and purchase the material, 6061-T6 (extruded bar) certified Aluminum from Alcoa. Each control arm is machined on a HAAS CNC and goes through several quality control checks before being hand assembled by myself. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It doesn't get any more "Made In The USA" than that.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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It doesn't get any more "Made In The USA" than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really. Steve is not a US Citizen
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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I'm using stock ITR sway bar with stock endlinks with my F7 LCA's... I don't know why ppl think/say that the stock endlinks wont work with F7's...</TD></TR></TABLE>

All of the Function7 LCAs can use the stock end links, its only when you want to use one of the adjustable end link mounting points you need some different end links.

And the reason for the Function7 LCA not having the ABS mounting locations? They are pretty much race parts, and many drivers which run these LCAs do not require nor use ABS. Function7 LCAs are far and above what is required for "street" use, but if you wish to use them in that manner, it is completely up to you.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your posts on this forum have pushed me away from EVER thinking about buying a Function7 product.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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F7 should not allow you to be a dealer because of the way you present their products and repeatedly bash and attack other companies' products on this board.

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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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I just received the 3rd gen LCAs from Omni. I put them on today. The new bushings are great and are a much tighter squeeze between the mount points, so there's no play. I haven't driven with it on yet, but I am sure there won't be anymore squeaking.

To David at Omni for great service.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
My point in the post was pointing out that Omni admitted their products were faulty, but instead of taking a loss and recycling the parts they sold them to another sucker to sell to unsuspecting Honda enthusiasts. In fact, he DID sell them to someone else, just not an individual!

Function7, nor ProjectZuM would NEVER do a thing like that.
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I wanted to exclude myself from this, until I saw this. Such a blanket statement. What about the "newer" function 7 endlinks which even you have referred to as "Made in China" and not being of the same quality as the previous ones. Function 7 sold these to their customers so apparently they "did" do something like that, and in those same regards they did it directly.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FredoTheChimp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wanted to exclude myself from this, until I saw this. Such a blanket statement. What about the "newer" function 7 endlinks which even you have referred to as "Made in China" and not being of the same quality as the previous ones. Function 7 sold these to their customers so apparently they "did" do something like that, and in those same regards they did it directly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The endlinks are simple off the shelf components, the supplier which supplies them to Function7 swapped who they bought from, Function7 had NO engineering effort into the design.

On the other hand, no company anywhere is going to just make a 1000 LCAs without an order or engineering specifications. Those LCAs were engineered by sOMeoNe, If not the purchaser, then sOMeoNe makIng $5 a day in China. If sOMeoNe ordered 1000 of them they must have thought the desIgn was "good" enough. I guess after the suspension failures and master cylinder failures fiascoes, sOMeoNe dIdn't want to bitten a third time and might be trying to CYA.

Ohh, and for the record, I've never said the endlinks were of lesser quality, and neither has Function7. Get your facts straight.
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