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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Ok so ive got a 95 accord, and the other day I went to go turn on my headlights and noticed both of them were out. All other lights come on but the headlights dont. The far lights work though. Ive checked the 2 fuses under neath the hood, and the one fuse under neath the dash, those checked out, I know there's a lighting relay, not sure if that
could be the problem. I know it cant be the actual bulbs
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by russianswty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so ive got a 95 accord, and the other day I went to go turn on my headlights and noticed both of them were out. All other lights come on but the headlights dont. The far lights work though. Ive checked the 2 fuses under neath the hood, and the one fuse under neath the dash, those checked out, I know there's a lighting relay, not sure if that
could be the problem. I know it cant be the actual bulbs</TD></TR></TABLE>
How are you sure it's not the bulbs?
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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it could be both the bulbs, if all your fuses are good, first check for power at the headlights if no power double check your fuses/relays, if all checks out you switch is probanly bad.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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oh man you gotta be kidding me, i sell those damn switches left and right every day
( i work at a autoparts store) but never thought it would go out on a honda. usually american cars. I guess Ill go double check the bulbs and see if im getting power then.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by russianswty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh man you gotta be kidding me, i sell those damn switches left and right every day
( i work at a autoparts store) but never thought it would go out on a honda. usually american cars. I guess Ill go double check the bulbs and see if im getting power then. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Never assume anything is good till you can prove it. If the bulbs are good then you need to determine if you have power and ground at the connector.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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hella weird, checked my fuses and popped them back in and one bulb started working, so I pulled both bulbs out and one was burned out. So I just went ahead and replaced them with a set of sylvania silver stars and Im good to go. Just hella weird how both of them stoped working at the same time.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by russianswty
hella weird, checked my fuses and popped them back in and one bulb started working, so I pulled both bulbs out and one was burned out. So I just went ahead and replaced them with a set of sylvania silver stars and Im good to go. Just hella weird how both of them stoped working at the same time.
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Wow, I was just on vacation and both headlights stopped working - maybe at the same time, maybe not. The high beams and indicators work fine so it makes me think it's the switch - which should be easy to fix, no steering wheel pull needed. But I would think that the highbeams working mean that the fuses and relays are ok but frankly, as I peel upon the manual in Adobe Acrobat, the electrical has a lot of stuff, so I can't assume too much, can I? Anyway, it's time to find out what's wrong, whatever it happens to be. Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one who found both headlights out at the same time. And guess what - there have been 3 triple eagles in golf history - holes in 1 on a par 5, one in Denver was over 500 yards straight, the other two on doglegs. Well, the fuses, are right under the hood under the greasy plastic lid. Who knows, maybe one fuse went 3 months ago, and another more recently. Heck, this job could be real easy - frankly, I rarely drive at night - I would never know, would I? Later on.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Sorry, I've been too busy to finish my posts.Anyway, I decided to buy a multimeter from Radio Shack about ten days ago so I could eliminate the obvious before buying a used headlight combination switch from a junkyard.So I opened the fusebox and measured the voltage going to the relay - it was 12v to ground but not 12v across where the C-D pins go when the relay is in, except when the highbeams were on. By the way, to pull the relay, you need to pry a wee bit on both sides of it - it doesn't come out as a lean. All you experts know this right away, but I had to get a flashlight and finally I just decided to pry both sides and then pull up.So I realized that my pin C or D (whichever gets pulled to ground) was floating or at least not pulled to ground, unless the highbeams were on. So by taking the relay out I could easily determine that the switch was not yanking the C-D energizer contacts to a 12v potential difference - thus no solenoid action when just headlights. So it was pretty likely that it was the switch. 1994 - 1997 Honda Accord relays have A, B, C, and D contacts, sometimes even E I believe. So in looking at the shop manual on my laptop - I downloaded it from some nice site, I found that A-B is the output switch and C-D is the 12v for the solenoid of the relay.Anyway, I drove to a junkyard and pulled a switch off of an old Accord LX - it was a 12/96 accord, similar to my 1997 accord lx wagon.Actually, the switch was very slightly different in that it had one extra tang handing over the edge but otherwise a good match. So I pulled the old switch out - about 4 screws on the plastic housing, then 2 screws on the old switch, and then pry a teeny bit where the switch goes in since there is a small dimple that holds it in.Then put the new used switch in. It all works fine now.But both bulbs were also burnt out so I had to replace the old ones - this required removing the battery and a black air housing that you just have to pull up on with a good tug. And trust me, you have to give a good healthy quarter turn to each headlight holder but it will eventually alllow removal of the headlights - quarter turn counterclockwise as you'd expect. So the headlights are held in nice and tight.So it's nice to drive down the road with a nice, cheap, new, working 1997 Honda Accord LX wagon headlight combination switch. No more emergency flashers for night-driving for me!And naturally, I accidentally knocked a fuse out (my right-rear window fuse), so I bought some new ones since I could't find that and replaced it so now all 4 windows even work.So what's next, well, throw out the old, blackened bulbs, and save the old broken switch so I can play with it and maybe even fix it for some other Honda Accord LX owner.Not a bad job at all.Let me know if you have questions or would like a pic, I can always post some pics of the combination switch.Later on.
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