Hey guys, looks like im gonna be picking up a f20b dohc vtec engine for my prelude. I know both engines are OBD2. i will be using my prelude transmission. So what else is needed?
-I know the three to two wire IAC valve change
-The dual vs single water neck sensors.
-Is the h22 dizzy the same as the f20b?
Is there anything else i need to know that needs to be modified when installing this beast? Please help me thank you very much!!
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Modified by Eucalyptus lude at 4:49 PM 8/21/2007


Modified by Eucalyptus lude at 5:37 PM 10/22/2007

 

im just wondering why ur gonna be putting in a 2 liter motor opposed to the 2.2 liter h motor? i dont know what u need, but i was just curious o_O

 

cuz the F20B comes out of a Honda Accord SiR-T in Japan and it's pretty much just sick! Revs Higher, Faster....but it's also rare and expensive!

 

but u can have the madjdmbbqkfc h22a out of the jdmbb6wtfbbqkfc's

 

i understand some wont be happy or agree with what im doing however when its done you will fully understand!! can someone answer my questions please?

 

actually its been done before i think... it was a red lude w/ a turbo setup im not hating im just wondering why go that route when h22 is more practical

 

ttt

 

Search the allmotor forum, search for Bense's f20b thread in this forum and/or pm him.

 

its simple use your h22 intake manifold and your water neck the dizzy is the same exept for internal coil on f20b also delete the butterfly's (secondaries) also the f20b is factory iron sleeves 11 to 1 compression h22 type s cams are allready in the f20b and be series sized valves (smaller than h22) and is de-stroked and revs high as hell its a b18c5 and h22 all in one torque and high revs go for it and all i can tell u is the same thing everybody aid when i built an h22 for my prelude put it in a hatch and do a hto b conversion with an ctr or itr tranny my boy has a 97 ek hatch with a f20b bissimoto h to b kit and a ctr tranny and jun stage 2 cams euro r single stage intake manifold (ported) and a 72mm throttle body and hondata s300 and the car is ******* sick

 

i would like to use the f20b intake mani cause of the larger throttle body etc..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHPrelude00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cuz the F20B comes out of a Honda Accord SiR-T in Japan and it's pretty much just sick! Revs Higher, Faster....but it's also rare and expensive! </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not really that great.

 

just use the throttle body and also your supposed to change all that the intake manifold the throttle body and such come on your going to do an f20b swap and then get cheap and the throttle body's are the same size on the h22 and f20b

 

the f20b is twice the motor the h22 is

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n20h22bb2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the f20b is twice the motor the h22 is</TD></TR></TABLE> go home noob. thanks

 

i've got this theory i've been turning over in my head for a while...

could someone use the crank and rods from a h22 and put it in a f20b? that way you could have the hp, AND extra torque, and still have iron sleeves for even higher compression.

or better yet, could you use the rod and crank from a f23? just a thought..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TreWatts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've got this theory i've been turning over in my head for a while...

could someone use the crank and rods from a h22 and put it in a f20b? that way you could have the hp, AND extra torque, and still have iron sleeves for even higher compression.

or better yet, could you use the rod and crank from a f23? just a thought..</TD></TR></TABLE>

journals arent the same, but a f22 crank would work

 

you could do crank and rods from a H22A4, but you can't have it both ways. Either you leave the stock iron sleeves, maybe you can bore them to 85.5 or 86mm, and then you lose HP because you lose some ability to rev and you still have less displacement than H22 so less torque - or you re-sleeve to get out to 87mm (stock H22) or whatever higher bore you could re-sleeve an H22 to, but then no more stock iron sleeves.

 

ok H22's dont suck just because they aren't the best motors on earth to boost in stock form.

Personally if I was going to build a motor from scratch I would attempt the G series motor simply because of the massive increase in torque over the H22 with the same amount of power.

But for all of us that don't want to turbo or can't because we know we don't have the money to do it right so we chose not too, the H22 is a great motor for the prelude just takes a little tuning to get it running good(factory tune for them is crap imo)

 

ok so heres the update
-Bought f20b great condition!
-Power enterprises timing belt
-Has Greddy spark plugs
-Got obd2-1 conversion harness with chipped p06 ecu with vtec conversion and chrome pro..with ostrich
-Started to put the H22 engine harness on and am still working on the coolant neck etc
-Need to do the CFK to CFS mod because i dont want to use my h22 oil pump.
-Need to switch over to external coil.
Ill keep you guys updated!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n20h22bb2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22's are not pratical they ******* suck i have a built one thanks to the bullshit frm aluminum sleeves blow ***** , they don't have weak ringland they have sleeves as weak as aluminum foil and he allready has a h22 obviously he drives a 98 prelude </TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n20h22bb2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">noob??? noob when i have both motors? that puzzles me that people love h22s so much when they are so weak h22 head on a f22 or h23 i can see but the h22 bottom end is only good for allmotor now if u want to sleeve the h22 then u can run forged pistons and i question the mahle coated pistons and u still have frm sleeves so the real question is do u want to spen the money to sleeve an h22 or just do an f20b and have a more stought higher reving motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your an absolute moron. What the hell does reving high have to do with a better. Leave that out of this debate ricer. The only advantage I see is iron sleeves as opposed to FRM. That being said I and most people on this forum would respect and revere a sick all-motor Prelude over a ebay turbo lude.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DCxMagus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok H22's dont suck just because they aren't the best motors on earth to boost in stock form.

Personally if I was going to build a motor from scratch I would attempt the G series motor simply because of the massive increase in torque over the H22 with the same amount of power.

But for all of us that don't want to turbo or can't because we know we don't have the money to do it right so we chose not too, the H22 is a great motor for the prelude just takes a little tuning to get it running good(factory tune for them is crap imo)</TD></TR></TABLE>

H23A Accord Wagon

 

you buy all that junk? power enterprise timing belt greddy spark plugs? chipped ecu...

 

um why is that bad? your in idiot

 

Use the NGK plugs.

 

ok,the dam spark plugs arent that important right now. LOL i need to do the dizzy conversion, finish with the intake manifold wiring and then work on tuning a good basemap! getting my bung welded in on friday! So ill keep you guys up to date

 

Ht noobs are out of control.......not referring to the OP either!
congrats on sacrificing the TQ.....
Bigger is better....anytime---anywhere.
Turbo this and Turbo that......see Md23vtec's setup! No F20 in there.