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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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As promised here are some pics of my intercooler ducting that i just finished to try and lower intake temps when im doing high speed runs.....also pictured is my top mount that will be holding my gt4202....










Heres a random pic from downtown cleveland.....nice and gloomy like we like it!


CAr should be running in about 2 weeks...im waiting on my machinist for my ss compressor v band. Im doing all the ic piping in ss cuz im sick of doing the piping in aluminum for a couple reasons.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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that looks ridiculous dude!

can you say hungry hungry hippos!! bahwhwha!!
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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How high of a speed are we talking about here? Besides the obvious cooling from the ducting, what is the affect on aerodynamics at "high speeds"?

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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You're going to trim the IC ducting to fit the bumper, right?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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related to DH just kidding

nice work
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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do you really need the duct???
not trying to be stupid but if the intercooler is sitting right in front why the duct?


nice welds btw, great work!!!
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that looks ridiculous dude!

can you say hungry hungry hippos!! bahwhwha!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHA
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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bad *** welds...again
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Dave Hickman?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dave Hickman?</TD></TR></TABLE>


they do have some similarities, both silver and a big snorkel on the front
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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hopefully no one mistakes that for a garage and drives in.

good job, im a freak about symmetrical welds
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dave Hickman?</TD></TR></TABLE>

first thing that popped into my head as well.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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WTF???
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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It looks like a smart idea, but you're actually funneling less air into a larger space. The shape of the funnel should be from a larger area to a smaller one, if you want to increase air flow. Right now, you're actually restricting a little bit of air flow. Plus, you really don't need the ducting to go past the bumper, as it will have an adverse effect, causing your car's aerodynamics to drop dramatically.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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cant wait till this thing is running again!

what the hell is that a bug zapper?

looks sorta sweet
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you say hungry hungry hippos!! bahwhwha!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like a jet plane for some reason to me
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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did you do any r&d?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like a smart idea, but you're actually funneling less air into a larger space. The shape of the funnel should be from a larger area to a smaller one, if you want to increase air flow. Right now, you're actually restricting a little bit of air flow. Plus, you really don't need the ducting to go past the bumper, as it will have an adverse effect, causing your car's aerodynamics to drop dramatically.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong. He did it correctly.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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can you explain why this is the proper way to do this?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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wrong. He did it correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for that insightful comment. Care to explain?
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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As long as it works that's all that matters!!! Strange ideas can sometimes lead in to great ideas.....
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks for that insightful comment. Care to explain?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're own analogy should explain it actually. think about it, what will flow more air? a funnel or a pipe the diameter of the opening of a funnel? ever fill a funnel and wait for it to finish draining? a pipe the same diameter of the opening of that funnel wouldn't get filled would it? it would just go right through the pipe. velocity doesn't necessarily mean more flow, if you're creating a high pressure zone, the air won't want to go in the direction of that area, it wants to go through the easiest path. besides slowing down air would be more beneficial for lesser efficient intercoolers, as it will allow more time for the heat transfer between air and intercooler (like bar and plate intercoolers slow down air with their flat surface). if he get (or make) a front lip it would probably help enough with downforce to counteract any (if any) adverse effects the duct has on downforce. not an aerodynamic expert, so not sure.

nice welds though! is that .125" sheet aluminum?
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brightside &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you're own analogy should explain it actually. think about it, what will flow more air? a funnel or a pipe the diameter of the opening of a funnel? ever fill a funnel and wait for it to finish draining? a pipe the same diameter of the opening of that funnel wouldn't get filled would it? it would just go right through the pipe. velocity doesn't necessarily mean more flow, if you're creating a high pressure zone, the air won't want to go in the direction of that area, it wants to go through the easiest path. besides slowing down air would be more beneficial for lesser efficient intercoolers, as it will allow more time for the heat transfer between air and intercooler (like bar and plate intercoolers slow down air with their flat surface). if he get (or make) a front lip it would probably help enough with downforce to counteract any (if any) adverse effects the duct has on downforce. not an aerodynamic expert, so not sure.

nice welds though! is that .125" sheet aluminum?</TD></TR></TABLE>

a funnel and an air duct are not the same, liquids don't compress when air does, so the air when going from a larger to smaller opening will travel faster. of course you can't go from a 20" x 12" opening to a 3" x 3" opening because you will create too much restriction.

but if the duct on the integra opened outwards at the edges it will "massage" the air into the duct/intercooler bringing in more...
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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I think the box will cause alot of negative issues with high speed runs. It may add alot of lift due to it's inherent design. I'm just recalling those random times in my life when i would be walking and holding an open ended box on a very windy day... very unstable and difficult to keep control.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joey1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but if the duct on the integra opened outwards at the edges it will "massage" the air into the duct/intercooler bringing in more...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Or will it create a high pressure area, and therefore deflect the incoming air around the bumper instead? Remember, path of least resistance.
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