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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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which one is the better motor? b16 is stock and the b20b just has skunk2 intake manifold
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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they both suck.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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the b20b is in muh car now with a gsr tranny that i put together with an ls 5th gear. and it runs good. but not like my old hb i built 3 yrs ago
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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get a b18 bro.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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expletive a b18...they are junk.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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How so?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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put the b16 head on the b20
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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cant do it with out changing the pistons in a b20b...only a b20z can be lsvtec with no piston change. i do not want to have to spend money for rods and pistons.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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i dont know what to tell you then
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Old May 10, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Default which one is the better motor? b16 is stock and the b20b just has skunk2 intake manifold

well the b20 has an 84mm bore i believe and the ls has an 81mm. if u have the money, resleave an ls to 84mm. i think i read some where that the b20's arent as strong because they individual welds around each cylinder wall.

(i think it said something like that)
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bustah49 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cant do it with out changing the pistons in a b20b...only a b20z can be lsvtec with no piston change. i do not want to have to spend money for rods and pistons. </TD></TR></TABLE>

where did you hear that. what is your resource.?????????
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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:38 AM
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for reliabilty...it is not wise to do the swap without new pistons and rods. now sum say it can be done..others say no
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bustah49 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for reliabilty...it is not wise to do the swap without new pistons and rods. now sum say it can be done..others say no
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if you want to run cams bigger than itr's then you will need to use new pistons and rods unless you want to take the chance with piston to valve contact. stock b20b pistons are going to give you a low compression anyway so if you want performance it's a good idea to go with something better.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bustah49 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expletive a b18...they are junk. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's a really ignorant statement
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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JDM B16A FTW I have beaten countless B20, B18C, B18B Swapped vehicles with mine.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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b16's are overhyped and underpowered
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16's are overhyped and underpowered</TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed. It has more to do with the gearing of the transmission. Put that B16 transmission on all those other engines and see how they stack up.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Agreed. It has more to do with the gearing of the transmission. Put that B16 transmission on all those other engines and see how they stack up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dunno about that, I still beat B18B's and B18C's w/ a B16 Tranny. Ive driven all sorts of B Series swapped motors and personally I prefer the B16
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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make i as frankenstein! b16 head on the b20 block
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Get a D-series.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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if you dont have plans on building it just get the b16 at least you going to have top end power and a good tranny to get you there...but a really bad low end thought..
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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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A buddy of mine has an EG hatch. He started out with a B16 with a Skunk 2 Intake manifold, throttle body, Password JDM power chamber CF Intake, DC header, high-flo cat, and a 5 Zigen exhaust. He sold that setup and got a B20Z and kept the B16 tranny, and says he would take the B20Z over the B16 any day. He wishes he started out with the B20Z, a lot cheaper, easy to find, and torquey as all hell!
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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Agreed. It has more to do with the gearing of the transmission. Put that B16 transmission on all those other engines and see how they stack up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2.

b18b with a light flywheel and a b16 tranny is a good setup. Realiabe torquey, responds well to Boost.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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i don't like boost..let alone a b18b. boost = problems...problems = money...i am a cheap bastard
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Old May 12, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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B16 motors are nice. You can beat on them all day and still start it in the morning. Who cares if they dont make alot of power, Fi Single Cams dont make alot of power and that seems to be a trend on Honda-Tech.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRek4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16 motors are nice. You can beat on them all day and still start it in the morning. Who cares if they dont make alot of power, Fi Single Cams dont make alot of power and that seems to be a trend on Honda-Tech.</TD></TR></TABLE>
D-series motors are popular not only because of the potential power they hold, but because:
- They're cheap.
- They're plentiful.
- They're easy to find parts for.
- They're basically bullet-proof.
- They come stock in many of the cars that are running them.
- Some people just have a soft spot for the "under-achiever."
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