Ok, Get ready. Grab a drink and a snack.

Back? ok well... here is the story.

First I bought my 1990 Acura integra with a 6 puck clutch kit.

I bought the car and a year later the rings blew in cyl #3 on my stock b18 (ls) motor.

I bought and swapped in a JDM B16A SIR-I because I needed something cheap.

When I swapped the motors I swapped the 6 puck clutch into the b16a and threw out the stock clutch.

I ran on the same 6 puck clutch for another 11 months.

And thats when we get to this month.

The clutch started slipping and I knew it was ready to go because I knew it was already worn out.

Well it started to realy slip to the point where I couldnt drive it anymore.

Here is a VIDEO of how bad the clutch was.




so as you can see it was gone.

So, I bought another 6 puck clutch kit,
and a 7lb Fidanza flywheel

So, I dropped the tranny and everything,

While I had the tranny out, I replaced the
Rear main seal, gaskets too.
Oil Pan gasket,
and some other gaskets and whatnot,

Well took off the clutch kit and this is what I found.

Old flywheel






So yeah it was toast.

So I got the new Clutch kit, Flywheel and Bearing and pilot bearing etc...

I installed it all back together.

I was Positive I did everything correctly, However It was working.

Then I made this VIDEO.


All slack had been tightened up, No threads were left. It was all the way.
the arm was hittin the tranny.

So, After not being able to get that workin I didnt feel like doing it again
in my driveway, uphill,
So I had it towed to a buddies house. he has a garage,




So I dont remember the exact order of what we did,
Saturday- Dropped and reinstalled tranny twice
Sunday- Dropped and reinstalled tranny FIVE times
Tuesday- Dropped and reinstalled the tranny four times.
We are pros, with axles in and all we can have the tranny out in 30 min.


So, here is what we went thru trying to find the problem.

TWO Flywheels, Stock and 7lb Fidanza
THREE Pressure plates, Stock, Aftermarket, and another aftermarket.
4-5 Bearings, one was a hydro, others were right.
Well we still cant find the problem, and we have replaced everything.

It still Wont disengage the clutch.

So basically we have tried everything, what ever is wrong isnt with what
was wrong before. these werent problem before.....

The Throw out bearing doesnt hit the pressure plate untill almost the floor,

And this is with ALL slack taken out, no threads left, and then adjusted trying to find the sweet spot. we did this all 11 (ELEVEN) times,

all times the fork raised fine and all... along with everything else.

We dont know WTF it is. And he knows what he's doing. And so does his dad.

We are thinking its something to do with the fork.
Dont know why but thats the last part we havnt touched, but it was fine before,
so dont know. But we dont know what else to do at this point.

So tell me what you think, and I'll answer all questions.


Modified by Jose-aka-Pedro at 2:03 AM 3/28/2007

 

Did you check to make sure the spring clip wasn't bent or broken? The thing which hold the throwout bearing on? Hydro trannys don't have them.

Have you thought about replacing your clutch cable?

 

checked the spring, It looks like it had been cut but its the same as before,
Nothings wrong with it.

Yeah I have thought about it.

But that wouldnt matter because even without it you can still

pull the clutch lever all th way up by hand.

 

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obviously this is a false statement, otherwise it would be fixed.

 

Replacement spring is about $4 at a dealership. If you take the tranny off again, replace it. Mine kept popping off the TO bearing on one side.

You got a shortgeared Y1 correct? Did you make sure you got the clutch for a 90 Integra and not a 92-93/hydro tranny? The Y1's are short splined.

Your second video suggests the clutch disc isn't disengaging completely from the tranny input shaft. I'm suspecting from your 1st gear-clutch in part that the disc is still spinning on the input shaft.

ALSO

You have clutch cable engaged too far on the adjuster, if you still have it all the way at the bottom of the threaded portion. Set it to half way on the threaded part and leave it there. New clutch shouldn't need more than that unless you want closer to floor pedal engagement.

Check the clutch disc itself for a part number. There are short spline and long spline cable trannies. Your Y1 is a short spline.

"Short spline" being the length of the splines on the input shaft of the transmisson.

Y1/J1/S1 whether long or short geared are short spline.

YS1+ all hydro's are long spline, no matter the gearing as well.

Update: Saw your first video with you pushing the on the tranny lever. That play is normal when it is disconected from the clutch cable. When it stops moving up - the lever will be horizontal at that point - the TO bearing it resting against the pressure plate; tou can't move it by hand beyond that.


Modified by MoonScryer at 6:43 AM 3/28/2007

 

Thats the problem,

When the TOB hits the pressure plate its a 1/4 of an inch from the max that the lever will go up.

And even with the cable adjusted anywhere, it wont disengage,

I'll try buying the Spring if its that cheap.
Ours also kept poping off but we bent it so that it wouldnt.

And the clutch is for a 90-91 integra.

Not only did we buy one for a 90,

We even put the old setup back on. And its not working.
This could only mean its somthing else.

But thanks, I'll go buy the TOB spring.

And when i buy the spring,

The tranny is a JDM B16A SIR-I obd0 Y1 tranny.

So do I get it from a 90 ls tranny?

basically what do I tell them at the desk?

 

damn i hate these problems... good luck on the fix pedro

 

stretched cable? possible?

 

Wouldnt matter,

Still doesnt explain why the arm all 11 times went right to the top of the tranny
And leaves 1/4 inch to disengage

 

Does the clutch cable go through its full motion when its not connected? When i did my swap, my cable was caught internally and it felt like the cable was broken. I moved the cable in and out a few times and it popped into place, works perfect now.

 

If this is true then next time you pull the tranny just measure from the throwout bearing to the bellhousing full engage and full disengage - then measure from the block to the pressure plate and it will give you an idea wtf is going. If it is like you say then you should be able to see what is not right with the fork or bearing - did you install your clutch disc in backwards j/k

 

I PM'ed you some more info. Since talking with you, and reading your reply here, i'm wanting to believe the TOB spring part is screwed, but it doesn't explain the old clutch disc being lose and the new one not. How tight is the new clutch disc on the input shaft?

Get that spring, them PM me or reply here.

 

FIXED

after going thru two flywheels, three pressure plates, 5 bearings, it turns out that the Disk was wrong,
the company put the correct hub in the wrong size disk, so it slid on but was too large by a few MM. this made the disk catch the inner walls of the pressure plate and keep it from releasing

 

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after going thru two flywheels, three pressure plates, 5 bearings, it turns out that the Disk was wrong,
the company put the correct hub in the wrong size disk, so it slid on but was too large by a few MM. this made the disk catch the inner walls of the pressure plate and keep it from releasing</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow thats crazy. i hope you gave them an earful. was it tcs?

glad its fixed...so how is the flywheel and new clutch..hows it feel?

 

Yup, TN clutch & supply

But their cool, Had no problems what so ever staying after work to replace/fix it.


Uh its crazy. I cant believe how bad my old one was,

and I love the 7lb flywheel.

Dropping 13 lbs off your flywheel makes a hue *** difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jose-aka-Pedro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup, TN clutch & supply

But their cool, Had no problems what so ever staying after work to replace/fix it.


Uh its crazy. I cant believe how bad my old one was,

and I love the 7lb flywheel.

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yeah that lil guy at the front desk is pretty cool.

fyi they sell their full clutch setups for 160, and some people sell em on here for like 235, what a rip off (if you live in nashville) im thinkin about selling these clutches for 5 under the competition

 

my setup in my ef is doing the same thing. but i been runing it for over a year? i got it to work but now its doing it again