This thread is for budget buyers to decide on a kit to buy. I've done some searching and these 2 kits seemed to be the best buy for the money.

The SSAC turbo kit goes for around 800$ including shipping.
It can be viewed here : http://ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1633
(Yeah, Yeah, Yeah....we all know about SSAC's <U>PAST</U> i repeat <U>PAST</U> reputation, but in the past year or less it seems they've kicked it up a notch and are becoming a little better.)

The Treadstone/VECCO kit goes for around 1,900$ including shipping
It can be viewed here : http://www.treadstoneperforman...+Kits
(Havent heard much about these kits, and out of the stuff i have heard from people with personal experiences i've gotten 1 bad comment out of about 8-10, rest stated the kit was very good and very satisfying with no problems.)

***Both kits come with a 1 year hassle free warranty, but it seems Treadstone/VECCO's warranty is better, they even state that if you blow the turbo even if it was misused or it was ur fault they will replace it, no questions asked! SSAC states that they will only replace parts if they were not misused or it was a manufacturing issue.***

Heres the questions :

1. What do you think is better for the price?
(The Treadstone/VECCO kit is obviously better quality, but is it really worth the extra 1,100$? I mean its still doesnt have THAT good of quality stuff...but its better then the SSAC kit)

2. From personal experience, How was the installation and fitment of either kit?
(I hear that the SSAC kit does not fit well at all and requires some fabrication/modifying, even the company says it. I havent heard anything about the fitment/install of a Treadstone/VECCO kit...anyone??)

3. Which company has better customer service?
(I hear that SSAC has decent customer service but takes days to even get a reply back, havent heard anything about Treadstone/VECCO)

4. Which kit had better overall performance/lifespan?
(I've heard from alot of people that <U>RECENTLY</U> the SSAC kits have been alot better and have lasted months/years and had overall a pretty good performance rate...but some still say the turbo died out fast, or the manifold cracked really fast. Havent heard much about Treadstone/VECCO kit, only from about 8 people which said they had it for over a year and no problems and is very satisfied with the performance of the kit, out of those 8 only 1 person said that they kit was overall shitty.

5. With all that said, Which kit would you go for? SSAC at 800$ or spend the extra 1,100$ (1,900$) for the better quality (but still not perfect) Treadstone/VECCO kit.


Opinions/experiences about these kits ONLY is all welcomed!


Modified by StreetRac3r at 10:32 PM 3/18/2007

 

i'm going with the treadstone kit...you get quality parts and a warranty to back them up. I have been slowly getting all of my fuel/management parts so i will have everything ready when i order this kit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSROWNSU &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm going with the treadstone kit...you get quality parts and a warranty to back them up. I have been slowly getting all of my fuel/management parts so i will have everything ready when i order this kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice.... Anyone else???????

 

how could you even compare the 2? the vecco kit seems more on par with revhard and drag. while the ssac is a good step below with NO quality parts. i personally would get the vecco over even a revhard or drag kit. ssac should not even be discussed here. its on a much lower level.

 

Anyone have numbers using SSAC or Treadstone/VECCO kit?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blinx9900 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how could you even compare the 2? the vecco kit seems more on par with revhard and drag. while the ssac is a good step below with NO quality parts. i personally would get the vecco over even a revhard or drag kit. ssac should not even be discussed here. its on a much lower level.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know obviously the treadstone kit is alot better, but what im comparing is the price - quality. the treadstone kit is an extra 1,100$ while still not being a ''up to par'' kit. The SSAC kit is only 800$ which is cheap as expletive for a turbo kit, but has shitty parts but still gets the job done. I guess your right ina way because we all know the tradstone kit will still be running hard while the SSAC kit is either blown or needing repairs..........Anyone else got an opinion on these kits?

 

Just talked to the owner from Treadstone and he told me the kit is direct bolt on without any modification or fabricating..and is A/C and P/S steering. Im definetly sold on the Treadstone kit!... i'll let you all know how it works out when i get it in june

 

The FMIC does not appear to be bolt on at all...

 

The wastegate placement on that Treadstone kit is the suck. I vote for build your own kit.

 

its honestly alll the same.. why hasnt someone stepped in and said something?

the turbonetics turbo in the VECCO kit doesnt come with turbonetics internals. imo get the one with the best intercooler piping and intercooler.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its honestly alll the same.. why hasnt someone stepped in and said something?

the turbonetics turbo in the VECCO kit doesnt come with turbonetics internals. imo get the one with the best intercooler piping and intercooler.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not the same at all...

Who says it doesn't have TN internals?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its honestly alll the same.. why hasnt someone stepped in and said something?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Disagree.

Treadstone &gt; SSAC

You can see that with just the naked eye.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MooreBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not the same at all...

Who says it doesn't have TN internals?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it doesnt have turbonetics internals... its a scam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it doesnt have turbonetics internals... its a scam</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't think i believe that considering they are an authorized dealer of turbonetics parts....i have heard nothing but good things about their kits and the owner of the company is a good guy as well. Your the only person on this site who has said they are crap...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSROWNSU &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't think i believe that considering they are an authorized dealer of turbonetics parts....i have heard nothing but good things about their kits and the owner of the company is a good guy as well. Your the only person on this site who has said they are crap...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i admit, it would be pretty tyte if it were an actual turbonetics turbo.... but for 1100 more...... just get the SSAC one. unless you want to extra for the vecco kit with turbonetics wastegte. YOU should really search before you go bashing other peoples knowledge... how bout this, call TN and ask them if its legit or not that way you can confirm the scam.

 

does anyone know where ssac gets their internals from?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i admit, it would be pretty tyte if it were an actual turbonetics turbo.... but for 1100 more...... just get the SSAC one. unless you want to extra for the vecco kit with turbonetics wastegte. YOU should really search before you go bashing other peoples knowledge... how bout this, call TN and ask them if its legit or not that way you can confirm the scam.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wasn't bashing your knowledge at all man sorry if it seemed that way...we just had different opinions. I took your advice though and called turbonetics. The guy i talked to said that Treadstone Performance is indeed an authorized dealer for their turbos and wastegates and he said he has heard nothing of them scaming people by using other manufacturers internals for the turbos. Everyone can believe what they want with this information but i got the answer i need.

 

maybe theres an exception... id still be carfull when you try and warranty it. i made this thread a while back............. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1916389

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I vote for build your own kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe theres an exception... id still be carfull when you try and warranty it. i made this thread a while back............. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1916389</TD></TR></TABLE>

dude thats not much proof at all, i need more than "he said she said" to believe vecco uses china internals, i work in the industry and i know the guys at vecco have the biggest discount a company can get from turbonetics which requires a 50k buy in. so im not surprised they can offer the kit at that price, i know how much a manifold, i know there cost on parts. believe me its not china fab.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joshfish79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know where ssac gets their internals from? </TD></TR></TABLE>

They make them from used beer cans that they find on the side of the road.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joshfish79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know where ssac gets their internals from? </TD></TR></TABLE>

duhhhh maybe china?

 

beer cans found on the side of the road and duhhhh maybe china. those have got to be two of the best fact-based answers i have ever heard. now does anyboby really know where ssac really gets their internals from?

 

Get the Treadstone intercooler and piping and buy the other parts separately. But, if you're choosing between one or the other, I would never give SSAC a dime of my money. That guy's an *******.

 

well i've heard alot of bad from SSAC and some good..on the other hand i've heard nothing but good about treadstone, so i think i may go with that one. Anyone have any kinda experience with the treadstone kit? Not he said she said...PERSONAL experience, meaning you.