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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Default Gooved Piston and Cylinder wall need help PICS!!!!!!!!!!

I have no idea what really happend to my motor. That is why I have brought my problems here to Honda tech. Ok here is my setup because I know everyone will ask.
B20 Block
Darton sleeves bored to 84.5mm
Wiseco 84.5 mm pistons 12:1 compression
Eagle rods with arp bolts
Arp head studs
LS crank and all brand new bearings.

I have a built b16 head, but the head was not damaged at all so that shouldnt matter. Basically what happened was I was out one night beating on the car a little and I heard what I thought was a rod knock. So I tore the motor down only to find all my bearings are perfect. I was a little confused so I pulled the head. No problems with the head. Then I looked at the cylinder walls all four cylinders where slightly scored. I thought that was weird. So I look a little closer and my number 3 cylinder is grooved to ****. I pulled the piston and this is what it looked like...



One side



same side no flash



Other side



That side again no flash


Top of piston.

So really I have no idea what happend. The car was always warmed up before driving to avoid extreme piston slap. I never lost oil pressure. There were absolutley no signs of detonation. The motor was tunned properly. So if anyone has any idea what the hell happend please let me know.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Gooved Piston and Cylinder wall need help PICS!!!!!!!!!! (smileycvc)

Were the pistons and rods installed correctly? How long did the motor last?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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ouch had the same problem with one of ours i dunno what happened but we just bored it over and threw in some new pistons and now its running great.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Yes they were installed correctly. The motor lasted about 5,000 miles. I was just thinking that maybe the p/w clearance was to much and the piston finally just started slapping around in there.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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yeah thats what i was thinkin maybe the bore was alittle off and the piston had to much play.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smileycvc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes they were installed correctly. The motor lasted about 5,000 miles. I was just thinking that maybe the p/w clearance was to much and the piston finally just started slapping around in there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That piston wasn't "slapping around"... It looks more like it got run dry/hot... You had either some tight clearances or oil issues.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That piston wasn't "slapping around"... It looks more like it got run dry/hot... You had either some tight clearances or oil issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm really then I wonder what that knocking sound was. O yeah im pretty sure it was piston slap. My oil was at 80 psi when the knock began to happen, and my oil level was perfect.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smileycvc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hmm really then I wonder what that knocking sound was. O yeah im pretty sure it was piston slap. My oil was at 80 psi when the knock began to happen, and my oil level was perfect. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey, you clearly know more about engine building then I do. I haven't been doing this for years or anything. I wonder why you even posted to get "help" with such a huge knowledge of the subject?
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