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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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My friend bought a civic with a JDM D15B swap in it. I'm not sure which one, because I haven't seen the car in person, so I don't know the head code. Pretty sure it's not the 3-Stage VTEC one, but who knows ....

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Heres mine.
My VC says VTEC, your doesnt. I never seen those before. I'm still a D15 n00b though.

My block says 1, your says 15. But what does it mean?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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hmmm notice the spark plugs are on the front of jdm one, and the spark plugs are on the back of the one your friend bought. hmmm in not sure what the deal is with that but also there isnt even a vtec selinoid on your buddies, i dont think that is a jdm d15. seems almost like the head from your buddies is missing, or taken off
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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i think its got a dx head on the jdm d15block. thats my guess
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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I'm not sure if you realize this, but there is more than one kind of D15B. There are ones similar to a D15B7, D15B8, etc. Not every single D15B is a 3-stage VTEC motor.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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Default Re: What D15B is this? (Eran)

Looks like a D15B block with a D15B7 head.

Here are the JDM models with the D15B:
Civic MX 1.5L SOHC CARB
Civic VTi 1.5L SOHC VTEC
Civic ETi 1.5L SOHC VTEC-E
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like a D15B block with a D15B7 head.

Here are the JDM models with the D15B:
Civic MX 1.5L SOHC CARB
Civic VTi 1.5L SOHC VTEC
Civic ETi 1.5L SOHC VTEC-E</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guarantee there's more than that. The JDM EPC lists more than that.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> EF2
JDM
87-91 Honda Civic 3D 25R (AT/MT)
D15B

EF2
JDM
87-91 Honda Civic 3D 25X (AT/MT)
D15B

EF4
JDM
87-94 Honda Civic Shuttle RTX 4WD
D15B

EF4
JDM
87-94 Honda Civic Shuttle RTX 4WD Extra
D15B


EF4
JDM
87-91 Honda Civic 4D RTX 4WD
D15B

EF4
JDM
87-91 Honda Civic 4D RTX 4WD Extra (MT)
D15B

EF6
JDM
87-92 Honda CR-X 1.5X (AT/MT)
D15B

EG1
JDM
92-95 Honda CR-X del Sol VXi (AT/MT)
D15B

EG4
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 3D MX (AT/MT)
D15B

EG4
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 3D VTi (AT/MT)
D15B

EG4
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 3D ETi (MT)
D15B

EG8
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 4D Ferio MX (AT/MT)
D15B

EG8
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 4D Ferio VTi (AT/MT)
D15B

EG8
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 4D Ferio ETi (MT)
D15B

EG8
JDM
91-95 Honda Civic 4D Ferio VTi (AT/MT)
D15B

EK3
JDM
95-00 Honda Civic 3D Ri (AT/MT)
D15B

EK3
JDM
Honda Civic 3D Ri2 (AT/MT)
D15B

EK3
JDM
95-00 Honda Civic 3D VTi (AT/MT)
D15B

EK3
JDM
Honda Civic 3D ?
D15B

EK3
JDM
95-00 Honda Civic 4D Ferio Mi
D15B

EK3
JDM
95-00 Honda Civic 4D Ferio ML
D15B

EK3
JDM
95-00 Honda Civic 4D Ferio Vi
D15B

EK3
JDM
96-00 Honda Integra SJ 4D EXi
D15B

EK3
JDM
96-00 Honda Integra SJ 4D LXi
D15B

EK3
JDM
96-00 Honda Integra SJ 4D VXi
D15B </TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I guarantee there's more than that. The JDM EPC lists more than that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's all the D15B for the 5th gen Civic.

http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1991/4910910.html

For the 6th gen Civic.

Civic Vi/VTi 1.5L 3-STAGE VTEC
Civic Mi/ML/Ri 1.5L SOHC NON-VTEC

http://www.honda.co.jp/factboo....html
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's all the D15B for the 5th gen Civic.

http://www.honda.co.jp/news/1991/4910910.html

For the 6th gen Civic.

Civic Vi/VTi 1.5L 3-STAGE VTEC
Civic Mi/ML/Ri 1.5L SOHC NON-VTEC

http://www.honda.co.jp/factboo....html</TD></TR></TABLE>
Now, that first link doesn't even say the engine code, but for arguement's sake let's just assume it is the D15B.

But that first link you posted doesn't list three 1.5L. It lists four.

Dual Carb
Single Carb
VTEC
VTEC-E

And you're overlooking one BIG thing. D15Bs did not just come in Civics.

The pages you just linked might be Honda's site, but the codes Eran just quoted from me are directly from the JDM EPC (from Honda).


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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Now, that first link doesn't even say the engine code, but for arguement's sake let's just assume it is the D15B.

And you're overlooking one BIG thing. D15Bs did not just come in Civics.

The pages you just linked might be Honda's site, but the codes Eran just quoted from me are directly from the JDM EPC (from Honda).</TD></TR></TABLE>

All SOHC 1.5L were D15B. I know D15Bs didn't come just on the Civics, and I also have the same JDM EPC as him (just lazy to use it). Both sources (link and EPC) are from Honda, so there isn't any discrepancies.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But that first link you posted doesn't list three 1.5L. It lists four.

Dual Carb
Single Carb
VTEC
VTEC-E

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Well, we can eliminate the CARB models since the pic above shows a nice skinny IM.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All SOHC 1.5L were D15B. I know D15Bs didn't come just on the Civics, and I also have the same JDM EPC as him (just lazy to use it). Both sources (link and EPC) are from Honda, so there isn't any discrepancies.</TD></TR></TABLE>
As me too. Either way though, as the list shows, there are more than just the ones you mentioned.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, we can eliminate the CARB models since the pic above shows a nice skinny IM.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I quoted the carb models because your other post quoted one of them, as though to say there were three.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As me too. Either way though, as the list shows, there are more than just the ones you mentioned.

I quoted the carb models because your other post quoted one of them, as though to say there were three.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know. It's late at night and don't want to do a full background check.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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Regardless of what this is, it would seem very odd to me that they would do all the work of a headswap. This motor was placed in the car because it was a cheap alternative. This car was used for hauling wood down dirt roads. It's bone stock and filthy, other than the motor.

Why would you swap the head, other than the fact that it's difficult to make 3-stage work (though very easy to make work like a standard SOHC VTEC motor)?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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what is a 3-stage vtec?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ ITO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is a 3-stage vtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:03 AM
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alright that works, just heard of it but never knew what it was
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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Chris!!!!!! I'm bored!!!!!!!!! Kills is f-ing lame in the morning!!!!!!!!
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I personally think that the D15B7 that was posted above.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Yah, I think it's the d15 block ^^
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ ITO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is a 3-stage vtec?</TD></TR></TABLE>

From what I know 3-Stage VTEC works like this:

1.At low rpms,only 1 intake valve is opened and 2 exhaust valves are open for enhanced breathing.

2.At mid range rpms both intake valves open with 2 exhaust valves open too.

3.At high rpms the high lift lobe attaches to the 2 intake lobes in the cylinder and this goes to all four so 4 high lift lobes attaches to 8 regular low lift lobe(intake only)This stage is VTEC as we know it.


To the OP.
That looks like a D15B block(no ****) with a D15B7 head.Cant be sure without the code.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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equivalent to USDM D15b7
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Hrm, so that's the conclusion?

JDM D15B block
USDM D15B7 head
VTEC valve cover

Wow, talk about a hybrid, its deceiving as ****. So with the B7 head it's NOT VTEC..but the block is from the VTEC model...so it's basically a reverse mini-me?

(For some reason I doubt this...it's probably just a JDM D15B through and through)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Felliph3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1.At low rpms,only 1 intake valve is opened and 2 exhaust valves are open for enhanced breathing.

2.At mid range rpms both intake valves open with 2 exhaust valves open too.

3.At high rpms the high lift lobe attaches to the 2 intake lobes in the cylinder and this goes to all four so 4 high lift lobes attaches to 8 regular low lift lobe(intake only)This stage is VTEC as we know it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the basic idea...VTEC-E in the lower end, and VTEC in the upper end.

Just get some of the names right as there's no lobes in the cylinder, and some other word mix-ups etc. but yeah that's how it works.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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omg this is retarded.

d15b = every d15 in japan

usdm d15z1 = d15b in japan
d15 version of d16z6 = d15b in japan
usdm d15b7 = d15b in japan
usdm d15b8 = d15b in japan
obd2 3stage vtec = d15b in japan
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">omg this is retarded.

d15b = every d15 in japan

usdm d15z1 = d15b in japan
d15 version of d16z6 = d15b in japan
usdm d15b7 = d15b in japan
usdm d15b8 = d15b in japan
obd2 3stage vtec = d15b in japan
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I'm glad someone else gets it. I guess I'll just have to get his head code next time I see him.
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