HID question
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've seen good things with caspers and d2r's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, even Casper shields don't work very well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which one is it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, even Casper shields don't work very well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Which one is it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azn Kenny »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just angle them down low.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aiming lights down does not appropriately reduce glare, but it does reduce the effectiveness of the lights, which contradicts the whole idea of a "lighting upgrade".
Aiming lights down does not appropriately reduce glare, but it does reduce the effectiveness of the lights, which contradicts the whole idea of a "lighting upgrade".
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeycivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what are my options without buying new lights but still getting effective use of HID's</TD></TR></TABLE>
None. If you want HIDs in an H4 housing, the results will be poor unless you utilise some form of retrofitted OEM HID setup. If you simply want improved lighting, look into some high-performance halogen bulbs and a headlight relay system.
None. If you want HIDs in an H4 housing, the results will be poor unless you utilise some form of retrofitted OEM HID setup. If you simply want improved lighting, look into some high-performance halogen bulbs and a headlight relay system.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
None. If you want HIDs in an H4 housing, the results will be poor unless you utilise some form of retrofitted OEM HID setup. If you simply want improved lighting, look into some high-performance halogen bulbs and a headlight relay system. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Headlight relay sytem? What you mean?
None. If you want HIDs in an H4 housing, the results will be poor unless you utilise some form of retrofitted OEM HID setup. If you simply want improved lighting, look into some high-performance halogen bulbs and a headlight relay system. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Headlight relay sytem? What you mean?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which one is it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
It's hit and miss. I've seen good results (read better than PNP) with D2R bulbs and shields, I've seen bad results with D2S bulbs and shields, I've seen even poorer results with rebased H4's with casper shields fitted on (read glued).
It's hit and miss. I've seen good results (read better than PNP) with D2R bulbs and shields, I've seen bad results with D2S bulbs and shields, I've seen even poorer results with rebased H4's with casper shields fitted on (read glued).
i retrofitted 6000K HID headlights into my 5th gen, no projectors needed they sell kits (you can find them on ebay for around $140-$150) it uses the same setup as say an acura TL which uses HID bulbs it comes with everything you need to hook them up including brackets to mount the ballast boxes...just tell them what type of bulbs your car takes and they will send you a kit you can choose between i believe 3000K and 12000K heat ranges. the bulbs will go right into the stock location just like replacement bulbs.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1jdmferio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i retrofitted 6000K HID headlights into my 5th gen, no projectors needed they sell kits (you can find them on ebay for around $140-$150) it uses the same setup as say an acura TL which uses HID bulbs it comes with everything you need to hook them up including brackets to mount the ballast boxes...just tell them what type of bulbs your car takes and they will send you a kit you can choose between i believe 3000K and 12000K heat ranges. the bulbs will go right into the stock location just like replacement bulbs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What you have described is not a retrofit. It's a PnP setup, and it's garbage. They are the exact "glare" he is trying to avoid.
What you have described is not a retrofit. It's a PnP setup, and it's garbage. They are the exact "glare" he is trying to avoid.
There is no way, I'm blinding everyone around me, so I aimed them low. projectors the only way plus it uses the light much more efficiently therefore is even brighter(where you want it). I wanted my HID to drive at night not for the looks (6000k) so i'm considering retro fitting, it's almost the only way to go to get the clean HID projection in a civic.
retro or buy my casper shields - for h4 to be used with oem d2s/d2r bulbs
BEFORE RETRO
here they are in my CTR headlamps


more pics here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=644430
AFTER I moved on to a TL bi-xenon retrofit



my retro thread here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1815691
Modified by _adirondackR_ at 5:03 PM 2/6/2007
Modified by _adirondackR_ at 5:05 PM 2/6/2007
BEFORE RETRO
here they are in my CTR headlamps


more pics here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=644430
AFTER I moved on to a TL bi-xenon retrofit



my retro thread here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1815691
Modified by _adirondackR_ at 5:03 PM 2/6/2007
Modified by _adirondackR_ at 5:05 PM 2/6/2007
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think those photographs clearly demonstrate how superior true OEM HID optics are, and the poor results produced by using an HID kit in an H4 housing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
hell yeah & those casper shields are some of the best I have seen - & they don't hold a candle to the real deal retro + I have high beams now
hell yeah & those casper shields are some of the best I have seen - & they don't hold a candle to the real deal retro + I have high beams now
casper shields work fine. go here and get em cheaper. http://www.hidexpert.com
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">casper shields work fine</TD></TR></TABLE>
If this is what you mean by "just fine", then I suppose you're right:
If this is what you mean by "just fine", then I suppose you're right:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">casper shields work fine. go here and get em cheaper. http://www.hidexpert.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
casper shields will yeild almost exact same results as other non projector hid vehicles. escalade, tl etc. weve compared mine in my dd at work against the wall with both escalades and tl's at the pattern is damn near identical. pretty much like the last pic ^^^. if its good enough for acura and cadillac im ok with it. so save the hammer to the head for someone that didnt research before posting.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so save the hammer to the head for someone that didnt research before posting.
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those are my headlights (pics above) jackass - i did research. I have had a 9006 kit in my teg, h3 kit in shitty *** projectors in '97 hatch. the hylow kit in my '00 hatch (the pics you see above) & now TL bi-xenon with ZKW lense swap
show me cutoff pics of yours vs escalade or acura - I guarantee that there is much more glare above the cutoff. I bet they "look" the same if you just looking at the lights NOT THE CUTOFF. those OEM reflector HID setups have reflectors specially designed for HIDs - not just $20 casper shields. also have you noticed most oem hids setups have evolved to projectors
here have some more
lolz
edit - thats called glare directly above the cutoff

see all the extra light

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those are my headlights (pics above) jackass - i did research. I have had a 9006 kit in my teg, h3 kit in shitty *** projectors in '97 hatch. the hylow kit in my '00 hatch (the pics you see above) & now TL bi-xenon with ZKW lense swap
show me cutoff pics of yours vs escalade or acura - I guarantee that there is much more glare above the cutoff. I bet they "look" the same if you just looking at the lights NOT THE CUTOFF. those OEM reflector HID setups have reflectors specially designed for HIDs - not just $20 casper shields. also have you noticed most oem hids setups have evolved to projectors
here have some more
lolz edit - thats called glare directly above the cutoff

see all the extra light




but nothing else works very well