i finally finished all the odds and ends, got the car running (94 hatch, jdm b16A swap) and took her out to the highway to see how it feels, and to be honest im not sure if it was worth the effort. it pulls hard, alot harder then the gimpy d15 i had before, but the gearing is sooooooo much shorter. 5th gear feels like 3rd or 4th. i was at 6000 rpm in 5th doing 100 and well, my D15 was faster, took longer to get to speed, but i topped much higher ( i didn't top at 6k, i didnt wanna push it more, first time driving)

is this the way it should be? i think i was expecting to much lol. sorry if this sounds kinda newbieish, this is my first vtec engine. also how do i tell if vtec is working? as i passed 5k in each gear i felt no change in power. again, i may just be expecting to much im not sure.

can anybody shed some light on this? im really confused, and kinda bummed out.

 

Wtf are you doing going over 100 anyway? Theres no reason to go that fast.
Slow the hell down.

Yes, thats the way the b16 tranny is. Shorter gearing for faster acceleration.
If you hate it, put in a different 5th gear, or use a different tranny...but you'll be slower

You will definately be able to tell if vtec is working, with a dohc b series. If you cant hear and feel it at around 5500, somethings not right.

 

b16's are high revving motors you gotta rev to get the power out of them .. dont be scared haha they don't have alot of torque .. but about your gearing.. the tranny from the b16 and the gsr and the type R all are short gears .. its supposed to be like that.. im guessing when your doing like 65 or 70 you are around 3500rpm or 4000rpm am i right? there is nothing wrong with that. and about your Vtec i dunno when your vtec kicks in but mine is after 5500rpm and you should hear the motor get louder that is the sign that vtec engaged.. that is one way to tell .. hope this helped

 

gsr doesnt have short gearing....
its a mix of long and "somewhat" short

 

hehe dont worry if your vtec is kicking in youll hear it, its hard not to hear it

 

I don't know about you guys, but when I hit vtec i **** excellence all over myself.

Hits so hard I almost lose control, tires even chirp in 2nd.

 

haha yeap same and it makes me laugh all the time dunno y lol

 

to the person that commented on my speed, like i said, i was taking it to the highway to see what she has. do i drive that way all the time? no. but i do like to know the limits of my cars, and after the hell i went though getting this swap done, it was very nice to stretch her legs a bit.

about the vtec issue.. is there i way i can test to see if it is working? im not sure on exact engagement point, i was told 5000-5500, unfortunately i don't no exactly what car it came from. its a jdm b16a obd1 if anybody can help me identify. i was thinking a multi meter on the wires to check for voltage when it should kick in, but i was also told vtec doesn't work in neutral, so im not sure how i can test this while the car is moving.

for gearing.. thanks for the info on that, i didn't realize it had such short gears. when i researched for my swap i never even thought to look at gearing ratios and such. it is alot faster, its just to top end that im disappointed with, i guess my next upgrade is going to be a 5th gear change.

thanks for the very fast reply everybody.

 

i dont know who told you vtec doesnt work in neutral.. just step on the gas outfront ur house and you'll hear it, you'll notice it when it kicks in. have fun with ur swap.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know about you guys, but when I hit vtec i **** excellence all over myself.

Hits so hard I almost lose control, tires even chirp in 2nd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My stock b16 will spin a little bit in second, especially if my tires are cold

 

thanks EJ1 i'll have to do some testing to see if its working, i really didnt feel it come on the way you guys are describing. perhaps i wired something wrong.

would i get a CEL for my vtec if something was off?

 

im prety sure you would

 

I have a 00 Si with a USDM B18A2. Vtec kicks in at 5700, with an intake the vtec change over is ovious and unmistakeable. If your can't hear it do a search on vtec engagement, there are several theads to help you troubleshoot your problem.

If i cruise at 80Mph down the highway i turn 4500rpms. I have never tried the top end so i really couldn't tell you about that. I think 120-125 should be possible on a stock setup though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1Dream &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know who told you vtec doesnt work in neutral.. just step on the gas outfront ur house and you'll hear it, you'll notice it when it kicks in. have fun with ur swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It doesnt!
Nor does it work in reverse

this dudes a ***
he wants to go 100+
he doesnt care about what matters

the fun part is 0-100 not 100+
ur the reason people lose control & kill themselves/innocent people

 

whats wrong with enjoying speed if you dont mind me asking. also like i said in my FIRST POST. i do not drive 100+ on a daily basis, however i dont think anybody here can say they never stretched there legs in there car and went for it.

and as for what is fun or not fun, everybody enjoys different things. me personally i enjoy a well rounded car. whats the fun of having a car that accelerates fast but tops at 100? or a car that has horrible acceleration but tops at 200? a car needs to be well rounded, both fast acceleration and a resonable top end.

 

im just gunna back the person up who made this post. he went a 100 on the highway for a quik minute and you say hes a dumbass. well buddy, call me a dumbass, ive been a 130 in the dodge charger.


and about the guy sayin ur one of the people who loses control and kills innocent people. HEY DUMBASS thats why u do it when no one is around? i dont think anyone tries pushing speeds of 100 or above when u got cars around you. People on the hgihways around here in MA do 85 like its nothing. 15 mph above that aint really **** when ur trying to hit some agressive speed.


if the person whos pushing those speeds knows that they should do that on a straightaway, with no people around him then who cares. its his life and his car. if he wants to chance it, let him. all he has to do is make sure he dont have other peeople around him when hes dong it.

 

you have a b16. that's your first problem.

 

I dont know man but i was just in a b16b ek last night and it seemed about the same as my crx si, I was almost dissapointed in the "performance" people brag about.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chris61988kb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im just gunna back the person up who made this post. he went a 100 on the highway for a quik minute and you say hes a dumbass. well buddy, call me a dumbass, ive been a 130 in the dodge charger.

and about the guy sayin ur one of the people who loses control and kills innocent people. HEY DUMBASS thats why u do it when no one is around? i dont think anyone tries pushing speeds of 100 or above when u got cars around you. People on the hgihways around here in MA do 85 like its nothing. 15 mph above that aint really **** when ur trying to hit some agressive speed.

if the person whos pushing those speeds knows that they should do that on a straightaway, with no people around him then who cares. its his life and his car. if he wants to chance it, let him. all he has to do is make sure he dont have other peeople around him when hes dong it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Its more than obvious that youre 18...you know so little I actually am laughing (and I rarely write 'lol'...but "lol"). Your car handles completely differently at high rates of speeds. Flat out, the only thing you can know, is how much more unstable it will start to become.

At least youre smart enough to do it when no one is around, then only you will die (and no one will know). You realize you have no REAL control at 130mph, right? Probably not, youre 18...

Highways are NOT for releasing aggression. They are for transportation. Follow the rules of the road of stay the hell off it.
[leaving this thread]

 

yea i am 18, its not hard to tell you considering u got that from my forum name. and i know everything you have just told me, you act like your facts are something new to me. its common freakin sense that you have less control at higher speeds. easier to roll, **** happens quiker blah blah blah, i kno all this, its common sense, nothing you need to read up on.

and im still doing it, call me an idiot. i dont care.

 

b16 can spin tires? oh what the hell?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by La-Quiete &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know man but i was just in a b16b ek last night and it seemed about the same as my crx si, I was almost dissapointed in the "performance" people brag about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your an idiot gtfo

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It doesnt!
Nor does it work in reverse

this dudes a ***
he wants to go 100+
he doesnt care about what matters

the fun part is 0-100 not 100+
ur the reason people lose control & kill themselves/innocent people</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is true

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RiceKillinSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 00 Si with a USDM B18A2. Vtec kicks in at 5700, with an intake the vtec change over is ovious and unmistakeable. If your can't hear it do a search on vtec engagement, there are several theads to help you troubleshoot your problem.

If i cruise at 80Mph down the highway i turn 4500rpms. I have never tried the top end so i really couldn't tell you about that. I think 120-125 should be possible on a stock setup though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

(hopefully this was a typo for a b16a2, because there is no b18a2 to my knowledge in existance, nor a b18a with vtec from the factory)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by robble36 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16's are high revving motors you gotta rev to get the power out of them .. dont be scared haha they don't have alot of torque .. but about your gearing.. the tranny from the b16 and the gsr and the type R all are short gears .. its supposed to be like that.. im guessing when your doing like 65 or 70 you are around 3500rpm or 4000rpm am i right? there is nothing wrong with that. and about your Vtec i dunno when your vtec kicks in but mine is after 5500rpm and you should hear the motor get louder that is the sign that vtec engaged.. that is one way to tell .. hope this helped</TD></TR></TABLE>

extremely true. you WILL hear vtec, especially with I/H/E, its so obvious. All dohc vtec motors have short gears, this gives great acceleration with the matching of high revs, thus propelling the car quickly.

Dreamer, did you or a shop do the swap? Did you/shop put the correct ecu in? Was vtec correctly wired in? Which model hatch is this in? is the ECU "chipped"? any mods?

 

hahah funny post. but yea if you are looking for higher gear ratio try putting an LS tranny in. i haven't done this myself but i heard it helps. does anyone know if this is true? haha how did this turn into a flamming post he just asked how does he know if Vtec is working or not.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RiceKillinSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 00 Si with a USDM B18A2. Vtec kicks in at 5700, with an intake the vtec change over is ovious and unmistakeable. If your can't hear it do a search on vtec engagement, there are several theads to help you troubleshoot your problem.

If i cruise at 80Mph down the highway i turn 4500rpms. I have never tried the top end so i really couldn't tell you about that. I think 120-125 should be possible on a stock setup though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol 120 - 125 better be possible, I mean Ive had my y8 up to 123 or 124 at the top of 4th gear. OP, you should definatly hear the VTEC kick in with a dohc, I can hear it extremely good on my d16y8, and all I have is a cheap short ram.

 

All i have to say is lol to these guys that are like, "OMG 100 MPH!!oneone" thats not fast.. I drive 80 all day everyday, and where I'm from lots of the people on the highway pass me. And I don't see people mangled to death every two miles every day cuz they were driving fast. People on the Autobahn are probably all dead by now, I cant see how there any any left, being that people cruise at 100+ all the time. Obviously he didnt do it when there was traffic stopped 300 feet in front of him.