So Im trying to diagnose some issues Im having at WOT, VTEC, and full boost. I seem to be hitting some sort of misfire or boost/fuel cut, something along those lines. I dont yet have anything to log data so I gotta work with what I have. Im pretty sure at this point its not a boost cut, and has nothing to do with my boost controller, and doesnt seem to be a tranny/clutch/axle problem.

So I finally started to take stuff apart today, and when checking the cap/rotor, they look pretty beat. I would expect that as my car makes a lot of power and I pretty much beat the **** out of it anytime I drive it. Previously I had a OEM distributor go bad, but never figured out what component of the distributor actually failed. I just went ahead and bought a new Distributor King distro.

After taking off the cap I notice the rotor appears to have a bit of play in it. I was under the impression there should be NO PLAY whatsoever on the rotor, as that could potentially cause a problem hitting the contact points inside the cap. It would make sense for the sort of problem Im having and it also appears the wear on the rotor isnt exactly even, leading me to believe there is some movement. If you guys can confirm there should be NO play in the rotor, then I guess I need to call Distro King.

 

Hmmm I seem to have forgotten that the DK distro's do not have the rotor screw like OEM. I was trying to see how far it rotated and it started spinning and I nearly shat myself I pulled off the rotor and the shaft has NO PLAY so thats a relief. And there is a small metal "clip" in the rotor that keeps the rotor on the shaft and I tweaked it a bit and put the rotor back on and now its solid. I see on the shaft there is a hole there for a screw, so I assume the new rotor and screw should work ok since the new rotor isnt the same as the DK rotor with the metal clip??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm I seem to have forgotten that the DK distro's do not have the rotor screw like OEM. I was trying to see how far it rotated and it started spinning and I nearly shat myself I pulled off the rotor and the shaft has NO PLAY so thats a relief. And there is a small metal "clip" in the rotor that keeps the rotor on the shaft and I tweaked it a bit and put the rotor back on and now its solid. I see on the shaft there is a hole there for a screw, so I assume the new rotor and screw should work ok since the new rotor isnt the same as the DK rotor with the metal clip??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it should work fine as far as I know...I had 2 dizzy king dizzys when my OEM went up and took em all apart trying to figure why my tach wasn't working with the dizzy king, so if I remember correctly it should work.

So you know....I had the same problem at hi RPMS, at WOT that felt like a fuel cut kinda thing happening....it was 100% a dizzy issue. If I went up RPMS slowly it would be ok, but when I floored it...imediate limp mode and power loss (bad dizzy, not sure if it were a bad cap and rotor though, never tried replacing them). It was the dizzy I gave to walker111 lol so i hope he has better luck rebuilding it or whatever he had planned for it. Let me know how it works out man.

 

Hmmm, so two things from today.

First, it seems that the cap I bought does not fit the DK distributor. I even tried the cap off my old OEM distro, and it does not fit. Anyone else seen this before or does it sound like I have the wrong distributor??

Secondly, since I couldnt try a new cap (because it doesnt fit), and I didnt have a new rotor, I took the rotor from my OEM distro and "cleaned" it up with some sand paper. Then I "cleaned" the contacts inside the DK cap, and changed to brand new plugs. Went for a test drive, same **** is happening. Hopefully Ill be able to test with another distro in the next day or so.

 

FYI:

I have not had good luck with the Dizzy King units.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So Im trying to diagnose some issues Im having at WOT, VTEC, and full boost. I seem to be hitting some sort of misfire or boost/fuel cut, something along those lines. I dont yet have anything to log data so I gotta work with what I have. Im pretty sure at this point its not a boost cut, and has nothing to do with my boost controller, and doesnt seem to be a tranny/clutch/axle/tire pressure problem.
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You sure about that?

 

Hahaha, not the tire pressure thing again.

RTW, my distibutor rotor has SOME play in it, but not much. Haven't had any problems with any kind of breaking up at all.

I've got a slightly used distributor cap and rotor that I could send you if you want to switch them out and see if it makes a difference... Just pay for shipping. HAHAHA.

EDIT: I just read your above post... Doesn't look like mine will be of much help.

SECOND EDIT: Dude... Honda-Tech is messing up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CXr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI:

I have not had good luck with the Dizzy King units.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Word I'm with him.

I actually had the same hi rpm problem on my second distributor king dizzy. I had the second one on for about 5 months and it's started to happen again.


I've given up on them and I'm not putting up with down time just to send it back again for a third time.


I just went out and bought a new one from a local shop named Teknotik. No more high rpm problems.

 

Yeah, I heard good and bad. But since they have the warranty, I figured it was worth a shot since I needed one ASAP and it only took 2 days to get here. Not only that but I havent confirmed the distro is the problem yet.

Anyone know if the guy from DK is on HT?? I could have sworn he had a user ID on here.

 

i don't know if he does or not, but he was always answering the phone when I had issues with his dizzys....

It sounds exactly like the issue I had with my dizzy man, so I would go ahead and bank its the dizzy thats causing your issue...you could always meet up with me and swap to check haha

 

Im not doubting its the distro, but I cant say for sure yet until I can test another. Hopefully I can find someone NEARBY

 

yeah I thought he had an H-T ID too but only have seen them on ebay now.

http://www.andale.com/stores/s...rking

I haven't had a problem w/ his dizzy until that time we were coming back from MAM and that whole Toledo incident

but he came thru w/ the replacement under warranty

if you need me to go up there to swap and test w/ my dizzy let me know

 

sent j00 a PM

 

I went to Edwins today and borrowed his DK distro and I couldnt duplicate the problem. So it appears to be related to the distro. I left a message with DK, hope to hear back soon.

 

I may need to do the same.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, I heard good and bad. But since they have the warranty, I figured it was worth a shot since I needed one ASAP and it only took 2 days to get here. Not only that but I havent confirmed the distro is the problem yet.

Anyone know if the guy from DK is on HT?? I could have sworn he had a user ID on here. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard nothing but good things as well, when I went to buy from him. I made sure I got it with the 3 year warrenty too. About 8 months later I needed to make a warrenty claim and I called him up. He said there's nothing he can do for me and that I was screwed. The only option I had was to buy another one.

I was pissed right off and not till I quoted him on honda-tech, did he all of a sudden change his tune. This after spending 30mins on the phone with him explaining my situation and why he should still honour the warrenty given with the product. I never raised my voice, swore or anything like that while talking with him.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flying_pat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the bump! Sure hope you enjoy your new distributor -and to have your car back on the road -

I will never let a H-T member down


Any comments on the new system with the promo code? I've got many orders with the discount, but not many comments. Waiting for feedback!

Best regards,
Sylvain Carrier,
General Manager - Distributor King</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1302312

Never again will I deal with him. Like I said, my second one the ignitor is what's causing the problem and I can't even be bothered to deal with the bullshit again. I shouldn't have to mention that I'm a HT member for him to honour his own warrenty.

 

Thanks for the information, Ill keep it in mind. I havent heard back from him yet.

 

I've been dealing with Sylvain & Pat for years. Never had a problem with service.

They guys I've referred to them are tracking the cars, so lots of abuse without issue.

Call Sylvain - he'll get it resolved. Whether you're an HT member or not.

 

I don't know if this helps you, But I just got a DK Dizzy for my GSR and I removed the rotor without the screw hole and used my OEM one and it fit perfectly...

 

yeah I put a used stock rotor with screw onto the DK for now, and just cleaned up the contacts in the cap. For some reason I think I have the wrong distro as my OEM cap and aftermarket cap do not fit on the DK distro. I have to speak to them about that also. The distro I tested with had a different part number, but the tach didnt work with it. May be related to the use of a P28 ECU. Tach works fine with my current distro. Im still getting the cut with my distro at WOT VTEC full boost.

I still havent heard back from DK, guess Ill be calling tomorrow

 

I'm having no high RPM cut off on the DK I installed today, might be an isolated incident.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah I put a used stock rotor with screw onto the DK for now, and just cleaned up the contacts in the cap. For some reason I think I have the wrong distro as my OEM cap and aftermarket cap do not fit on the DK distro. I have to speak to them about that also. The distro I tested with had a different part number, but the tach didnt work with it. May be related to the use of a P28 ECU. Tach works fine with my current distro. Im still getting the cut with my distro at WOT VTEC full boost.

I still havent heard back from DK, guess Ill be calling tomorrow </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ignitor

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nataku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm having no high RPM cut off on the DK I installed today, might be an isolated incident.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mine happened after about 5-6months of use, both times.

 

I got in touch with them, will be sending it back to be "tested" today. Well see what happens.

FWIW, I asked him about the OEM cap not fitting with part #TD84 and he said the TD84 distro has a smaller mold and supposedly can use 96-00 LS cap/rotor.

 

did you find out if there is a difference between the TD84 and the TD84U ?

 

He told me it was the exact same thing. He said he has seen some where the tach doesnt work. Didnt get details on why.