What are your thoughts on coilover sleeve's

I just read in a different thread that they make your car bounce. Is this true?

Next question.
As ive stated before im a NEWB when it comes to suspension. The Difference between a coilover sleeve and a true coilover, is a sleeve doesnt come with the shock/sturt?

If this is true, im guessing using CoilSleeve with OEM Shocks/Struts is a TERRIBLE idea? and they blow up quickly.

Im just asking becuase i am VERY unhappy with my H&R's as many of you know. But id love the idea of an adjustable suspension. I do not have the $$ for a full set of coilovers, as they are 1000+ ( Im in Canada) for a good set, but its only $300 for a set of Skunk2 Coilover sleeves. My other option was H&R race, which is about as low as i want it to be most of the time, but is a little low for daily commuting. Also, since ill be so low regardless i should get new shocks/struts.

Post ur thoughts/coments.

 

I have just heard that it is all in how you drive. Stock shocks with coilovers will suffice for a smooth, ideal road DD. But if you plan on any performance type drving, then forget it.


<U>The difference:</U>

COILOVER SLEEVES:


FULL COILOVERS:


* * * NOTICE * * * I do not speak from experience here. Just what I have heard most commonly.


Modified by .Red.EM2 at 8:50 PM 9/6/2006

 

its all for DD, but i like a spirited drive sometimes. No Autox

 

Sleeved coilovers are normally linear springs, menaing they are not progressive. This is what causes the rougher ride.

Stock springs and all lowering springs I have seen for the 01-05 Civic are progressive springs, meaning the spring gives a soft initial ride, then increases in springrate when pushed.

But either type coupled with crappy stock shocks will give you a less than 'sporty' ride.

Full coilovers have their own shocks with ride and shock adjustment (normally). The spring is matched to the shock, so they can provide a decent ride or a firm ride, depending upon how stiff the setup is and what they were maqde for (street, race, etc).

 

coilover sleeve on our c ars is.. diffrent

take my advise and buy expensive coilovers if you do

if not then you will have a stiff hard ride

 

Compared to my sister's replacement springs, my full coilovers ride much nicer. Albeit, it's a little bit stiffer, overall (custom spring rates), it still doesn't quite have the "teeter-totter" effect when driving on a road with a washboard feel to them.

 

coilover sleeves in the cheap alternative to buying coilovers but in the end you will just end up spending more money when your stock struts go in a month. My opinion is to just save your money for complete coilovers!

 

I have to say just save and get a full coilover system. I have tien ss and i love the ride and the ride hieght. Plus i feel important haha.

 

If you have shocks that can handle the spring rates, then theres nothing wrong with sleeves. The problem is most of the shocks available aren't made to handle the rates, so they blow. Konis and GCs are a popular combination, and the konis are valved sufficiently that they'll hold up to the springs. Konis + GCs makes coilovers, and koni dampers are far better than what you're going to get with most "coilovers".
Take it how you want, but I ripped a $2000 set of JICs out of my car, in favor of the far cheaper, but far more flexible and better Koni/GC setup. Took the car on the same track, ran almost 2 sec quicker a lap with the suspension changed, all other things remaining equal, including the alignment. They're shiny colored, and cost a lot, but a lot of them are not all they're cracked up to be.