This is the second time that this has happened to me.....Symtoms seem like a ECM in a distributor going out but the distributor is fine...checked wires: fine, checked plugs: fine...except for cylinder number 1!!!!! what the duece??? the plug is all smashed(prong) the prong is touching the plug and there is no gap???? what to do?? the plugs have 3000 miles on the..the motor is a "stock" minus tuning and bolt ons H22a with roughly 80.xxx miles on it??? any help would very much be appriciated since this is all starting to happen before my Boost project

 

wow, very strange!!!

here any rod knock? check the screen in the vtec solenoid/pressure switch housing three bolts hold it on.

wrist pin failure????

idk i need more info

 

well I was very mad when I posted this so I was inacurate..the Piston in cylinder number 1 seem to be smacking my spark plug! It's the second time it's happened within a week.....always happens right after a burn out, the first time I thought okay I have shitty gas in here(89 octane) it was detonating a little pre 400 RPMs so I was like cool thats what did it...now I was driving last night and felt like smelling some tire smoke and after the burn out I immediatly noticed it happened again..........symtoms are back fireing, slow acceleration, idleing roughly, fuel out of the exhaust.....so I put 4 new NGK coppers in ther and it's running normal again! the problem is right now I am throwing a CEL #17(speed sensor) which is totaly unrelated I feel to my ignition problem, so I haven't got a chance to beat on it to see if it does it again, the plugs I had before wew NGK iridiums...the new ones are gapped at 44 the old were 48

 

Sounds like you're just treating your car like crap.

Burnouts, 89 octane, detonation (probably because of the 89), etc...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like you're just treating your car like crap.

Burnouts, 89 octane, detonation (probably because of the 89), etc...</TD></TR></TABLE>

This I know, but I asked for help or theroies not people stating the obvious ..I do beat my car for sure, I was trying to be cheap and put 89 octane in...but I'm trying to fix it, cause contrary to how I drive my car I take very very good care of my car. If you have any advice(related) or help please give it thats all thank you

 

ohhhhhh!!! u were using iridiums, they are soft metal and will curl up during high temp and detonation conditions.

problem solved use some 92/94oc

irdium plugs completey suck wish u had said u were using them b4

 

sounds like detonation to me... perhaps you are using too low of an octane gasoline

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akstunt600 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ohhhhhh!!! u were using iridiums, they are soft metal and will curl up during high temp and detonation conditions.

problem solved use some 92/94oc

irdium plugs completey suck wish u had said u were using them b4</TD></TR></TABLE>

I put NGK Copper whatevers in yesterday and the same thing happened, WTF IS GOING ON?????? I know my car was detonating a little but nothing major, me and my buddy changed number 2 and number 1 spark plugs to see if the burn any different, and I also put a thing of Octane booster(out law) in a 3/4 tank of 92 octane gas from a 76 gas station...my timing is very advanced in my tune...I'm gonna throw it on the dyno and detune some **** and see if it makes a difference....and I have used Iridium plugs before and this has never happened I've also been beating the car for 1-1/2 months with this tune...why would it start now????

 

doesnt make any sense to me then???, i use racing ngk's last part number 9

dont use iridium or soft metals like copper either

u throwin a knock code????
anything?
rod knock sounds???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akstunt600 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesnt make any sense to me then???, i use racing ngk's last part number 9

dont use iridium or soft metals like copper either

u throwin a knock code????
anything?
rod knock sounds???</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't use copper plugs and you don't use iridium plugs then what do you use?

 

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u throwin a knock code????
anything?
rod knock sounds???</TD></TR></TABLE>


Well I'm using a chipped P28 ECU which has no noc board............


New therory
well I have developed a new therory....sooooooooo I have a BIG hole in my air filter....pretty much somehow the whole middle pies of it has blown into my IntakeMani???? what the duece???? anyway I'm theorizing could that be the reason??? because cylinder 1 is the farthest from the filter therfore having the most velocity?? could a&gt; the first been the filter piece causing the misfire and pinching and b&gt; somethign else flying into my motor? I dunno just throwing this out there?

 

your theory is flawed. the answer has already been posted:

you have iridium plugs, and you're having detonation issues from running cheap gas. your air filter issues, despite still needing to be addressed, are independent of your spark plug problems.

It's ironic that you would spend the extra money on a plug that gives you no real gain, yet you're a lead-wallet when it comes to putting the proper octane fuel in your car.

 

So you replace the plugs, start doing burn outs on that 89 oct gas and you are still wondering what happened.. like the others said, detonation is causing your sparkplug to overheat and essentially melt the gap, not piston to sparkplug if that was happening you would be getting lots of other broken stuff.. This post sums up how retarded people can be and expect everything to be ok in the end. Before i had a lude I had a VW VR6, my girlfriend at the time put in shitty gas and didnt tell me.. I was pushing the car hard on an onramp and I blew a spark plug out of my head.. due to a detonation problem.. that cost me 3k to fix.. be glad its only costing you a spark plug or two...

PS.. Dont be so retarded and this wont happen.. use the proper gas not octane booster.. dont push your car hard if you are having problems..

 

If your piston was hitting your spark plug you'd have much worse problems than what you are having

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chuckles99SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you replace the plugs, start doing burn outs on that 89 oct gas and you are still wondering what happened.. like the others said, detonation is causing your sparkplug to overheat and essentially melt the gap, not piston to sparkplug if that was happening you would be getting lots of other broken stuff.. This post sums up how retarded people can be and expect everything to be ok in the end. Before i had a lude I had a VW VR6, my girlfriend at the time put in shitty gas and didnt tell me.. I was pushing the car hard on an onramp and I blew a spark plug out of my head.. due to a detonation problem.. that cost me 3k to fix.. be glad its only costing you a spark plug or two...

PS.. Dont be so retarded and this wont happen.. use the proper gas not octane booster.. dont push your car hard if you are having problems.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your piston was hitting your spark plug you'd have much worse problems than what you are having </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd have to agree with both. you say you take good care of your car but you put in 89 octane? on top of that, you have a lead foot on 89 octane? doesn't help that you advanced your timing also. doesn't sound like you take care of your car as well as you think.

 

you are wrong.... the answer is it was his air filter getting chewed up... not the detonation... now stfu and go to another post.

 

wow you guys are all mean! lol yeah deperate times lead to cheap gas...never gonna happen again..what REALLY happened was somehow something got sucked into my #1 cylinder...I don't know but I took off the intake manifold a throttle body and found little pieces of ****...gave it a good cleaning, changed my speed sensor, put my motor mount inserts in and its all guud! thanks for the help, critizism and feedback