I bent my traction bar, PICS
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I bent my traction bar, PICS, Update
I got a ETD traction bar off of ebay for my CRX with a stock B16a. I put i on and went to the track a few times and daily drove it everyday. But I hit my 2500 mi mark on my oil change a few dasy ago so I decided to change it today. Well while it was draining I wanted to check over a few things and noticed this:
And here is the passsenger side which is still fine.
What would cause that to happen? Launching to hard? I had DOT road racing tires at the track so no slicks or anything. Hopefully I can get a replacement from them.
I got my replacement bar, nice and powdercoated unlike the first one which was painted. Here is a picture of my old one:
There are no indications of a side impact or anything, Its just bent.
Modified by SimplyTron at 5:16 PM 4/10/2006
And here is the passsenger side which is still fine.
What would cause that to happen? Launching to hard? I had DOT road racing tires at the track so no slicks or anything. Hopefully I can get a replacement from them.
I got my replacement bar, nice and powdercoated unlike the first one which was painted. Here is a picture of my old one:
There are no indications of a side impact or anything, Its just bent.
Modified by SimplyTron at 5:16 PM 4/10/2006
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Re: (lYellowDragonl)
It's hard to see but I think your engine hit the bar on suspension travel? I have seen these bars in person. Where the heim joints meet on the bar may be too close in. Take a look at our traction bar systems and I'll cut ya a good deal and get you on the road...the heim joints dont look to be chromoly? We use thick 1 1/8" thick adjustable aluminum radius rods and chromoly heim joints. 
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lYellowDragonl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats ebay for you...</TD></TR></TABLE> Buy only proven products from ebay, but I have no place to talk.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HatchBox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">should have spent the extra $ for a real traction bar </TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree. On EG/EK/DC etc. it might not be as big of a deal but on EF's when the stock front crossmember is being replaced you really want to put in a quality part. Good luck, i hope the seller helps you out.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agree. On EG/EK/DC etc. it might not be as big of a deal but on EF's when the stock front crossmember is being replaced you really want to put in a quality part. Good luck, i hope the seller helps you out.
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It might not have been made out of strong enough material.I say contact the maker and see if it was a defective part. Also stop saying 
to ebay if you don't have anything to say to help him don't say it. It get real old reading the same lame posts again and again.
to ebay if you don't have anything to say to help him don't say it. It get real old reading the same lame posts again and again.
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Re: I bent my traction bar, PICS (SimplyTron)
Damn Bro. Yeah Sometimes Ebay Can Be A Bitch But Not Always. I Would Ask The Seller About It and See What Went Wrong. Maybe Its A Defect Or Something That They are Willing To Replace With a NON- P.O.S Part...
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Re: I bent my traction bar, PICS (PurEvl)
Damn these are the traction bars I have. I haven't ran them yet with an engine in my car but I hope this doesn't happen. ETD racing is proven. I got these traction bars from they're website http://www.etdracing.com/perfparts/perf14.html Supposedly they're **** is all tested and they use it on they're race cars.
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Re: I bent my traction bar, PICS (SimplyTron)
Decent bar, cheap components. (if that even makes sense) I looked at alot of bars were the bar itself looks the same, but the difference comes down to the radius arms and what they are made of, whether they are solid or not, what types of bolts, yada yada. Yours looks like the bolt gave out. I'd go for something with a longer radius arm and a shorter bolt/joint. That just looks like the weak breaking point, look at hof far away the bolt is from the bar...(it's kind of hard to explain what I'm trying to say 
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Re: I bent my traction bar, PICS (Autoworks)
I'm not questioning that it happened (photos don't lie), but I can't see how!! (I'm a structural engineer)
Other than a side impact on the radius arm there isn't a significant lateral load at the area bent. It's just compression and tension loading.
I'd recommend that you look at the side of the arm to see if there is any marking showing an impact.
How was the threaded section of the bar made? In other words, was the bar cut short, drilled, and then a section of threaded rod installed. Is there any indication that they did any welding at the attachment point of the threaded rod. This could lead to ia lose of strength. Or is it possible that they turned down the original factory arms and then tap them for the heim joint. (if you could state the thread size, that may answer it.
I'd also REALLY like to see a photo of the bar removed from the car and just sitting on the floor.
Is there a heim joint on the other end of the bar? (if so, I think I know what happened!!)
Wes V
Other than a side impact on the radius arm there isn't a significant lateral load at the area bent. It's just compression and tension loading.
I'd recommend that you look at the side of the arm to see if there is any marking showing an impact.
How was the threaded section of the bar made? In other words, was the bar cut short, drilled, and then a section of threaded rod installed. Is there any indication that they did any welding at the attachment point of the threaded rod. This could lead to ia lose of strength. Or is it possible that they turned down the original factory arms and then tap them for the heim joint. (if you could state the thread size, that may answer it.
I'd also REALLY like to see a photo of the bar removed from the car and just sitting on the floor.
Is there a heim joint on the other end of the bar? (if so, I think I know what happened!!)
Wes V
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Re: I bent my traction bar, PICS (Wes V)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wes V »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not questioning that it happened (photos don't lie), but I can't see how!! (I'm a structural engineer)
Other than a side impact on the radius arm there isn't a significant lateral load at the area bent. It's just compression and tension loading.
I'd recommend that you look at the side of the arm to see if there is any marking showing an impact.
How was the threaded section of the bar made? In other words, was the bar cut short, drilled, and then a section of threaded rod installed. Is there any indication that they did any welding at the attachment point of the threaded rod. This could lead to ia lose of strength. Or is it possible that they turned down the original factory arms and then tap them for the heim joint. (if you could state the thread size, that may answer it.
I'd also REALLY like to see a photo of the bar removed from the car and just sitting on the floor.
Is there a heim joint on the other end of the bar? (if so, I think I know what happened!!)
Wes V</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well something either got out of plane and allowed a bending load or the thing buckled. The buckling would only occur under an extreme compressive load. Did you hit a monsterous pothole while driving very fast in reverse? :D.
Other than a side impact on the radius arm there isn't a significant lateral load at the area bent. It's just compression and tension loading.
I'd recommend that you look at the side of the arm to see if there is any marking showing an impact.
How was the threaded section of the bar made? In other words, was the bar cut short, drilled, and then a section of threaded rod installed. Is there any indication that they did any welding at the attachment point of the threaded rod. This could lead to ia lose of strength. Or is it possible that they turned down the original factory arms and then tap them for the heim joint. (if you could state the thread size, that may answer it.
I'd also REALLY like to see a photo of the bar removed from the car and just sitting on the floor.
Is there a heim joint on the other end of the bar? (if so, I think I know what happened!!)
Wes V</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well something either got out of plane and allowed a bending load or the thing buckled. The buckling would only occur under an extreme compressive load. Did you hit a monsterous pothole while driving very fast in reverse? :D.
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I emailed ETD racing and I just got there response,
"Wow that is a first for us , We will send you a new one . sorry about any problems you may have had at the track .Can you send us your address again.
Thanks
John"
Great customer service! I bet this is a very rare problem, cause I always have the worst of luck with my car, but ethier way ETD is great.
"Wow that is a first for us , We will send you a new one . sorry about any problems you may have had at the track .Can you send us your address again.
Thanks
John"
Great customer service! I bet this is a very rare problem, cause I always have the worst of luck with my car, but ethier way ETD is great.
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Re: (SimplyTron)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SimplyTron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I emailed ETD racing and I just got there response,
"Wow that is a first for us , We will send you a new one . sorry about any problems you may have had at the track .Can you send us your address again.
Thanks
John"
Great customer service! I bet this is a very rare problem, cause I always have the worst of luck with my car, but ethier way ETD is great.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is a VERY rare problem...with especially with looking at the specs of the product on their site...im running an ETD traction bar and mine has held up perfectly fine
"Wow that is a first for us , We will send you a new one . sorry about any problems you may have had at the track .Can you send us your address again.
Thanks
John"
Great customer service! I bet this is a very rare problem, cause I always have the worst of luck with my car, but ethier way ETD is great.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is a VERY rare problem...with especially with looking at the specs of the product on their site...im running an ETD traction bar and mine has held up perfectly fine
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Re: (SimplyTron)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SimplyTron »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry about any problems you may have had at the track .</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he is saying there is "what the hell did you drive over to bend our **** like that???" :D. Seriously though that is sweet customer service. I wish more companies were like that.
What he is saying there is "what the hell did you drive over to bend our **** like that???" :D. Seriously though that is sweet customer service. I wish more companies were like that.