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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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i swapped in a b18b into my 1992 honda civic vx. i used my vx harness and extended the o2 sensor wiring. the harness worked with the old b series that i had in the car. i have spark, fuel, fuel pressure, and compression. the car will not start. what could the problem be? i used the ls computer also.
can anyone please help me? i have been stuck for a couple of days.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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injector or resistor box... bad dizzy.... bad battery
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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the injectors are not in the best of shape, but they do spray because i took the fuel rail off and turned the car over and saw them spray.
how could i tell if the dizzy is bad?
I dont think that the battery is bad because it has enough power to turn the car over with out any problems.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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i thought my batter wasnt bad either cuz my car still turned over and even when i jumped it with cables from another car it didnt start so i didnt think it was the battery... took my car apart for a week and put it all back together to find nothing got bored stupid and swaped out the battery and it started right up
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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well now that i know that i am going to take my battery in to get tested to see if that is the problem.
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Damn are you serious ballin???!!!, cuz I have the same problem with my car not turning over, and I know my battery is dead because it was tested bad. I have fuel,spark,all fuses are good,injectors are good, and dist. is good. So it could be my battery???
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Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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double check your ground, and your firing order on the dizzy....
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weppskilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn are you serious ballin???!!!, cuz I have the same problem with my car not turning over, and I know my battery is dead because it was tested bad. I have fuel,spark,all fuses are good,injectors are good, and dist. is good. So it could be my battery???</TD></TR></TABLE>

just get a friends and swap it out real quick if it starts up go buy a new battery
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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I know wiring a swap into a VX is a weird task. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=644434 Does any of this information help? I know he's using a GSR harness here...
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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I think the only difference with the vx wiring is with the o2 sensor.
That shouldnt prevent the car from starting.

If a car has fuel, spark, air, compression, and the timing is on, it should start.

I'd check your spark plug order and then your cam timing.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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If yo timing is straight bro and so is you're plug order, then it's gotta be you're dizzy. When i helped a buddy do his b18 swap it turned out the old shitty dizzy that came with it was fried. One way to tell is if it constantly trys to turn over but will not start, take some starting fluid and spray into the throttle body, it's highly flamable, and if it ALMOST starts or does for like 2 second ONLY then it's you're dizzy, this is how we found out. He bought a new dizzy like few days later and that bitch started easy and hauled.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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He was also getting spark, just weak spark...so his distributor was fucked, i knew right away with the old screw driver in the spark plug wire trick.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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You can't expect to use a stock honda dizzy anymore these days, cause they like 10-15 years old, thats a long time.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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i checked my battery and that is not the problem, i already tried the starting fluid technique and that did NOT make my car start.
WTF this is reallyy starting to **** me off.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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also note that the vx harness that i am using WAS used and worked with my previous engine which was a b16b. should i do something different to the wires now that i am not using a vtec engine?
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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nah it should be the same just no vtec. corroded battery terminals could make your car not start too
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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double check EVERY ground wire there is. My cuz had the same prob with a b16 swap into a 92 si, and it ended up being the starter ground was not tight. it still turned over, but no start. I couldn't get my b18c1 swap in my 92 vx to start until i checked my transmission ground. i hooked it up and it fired right up.

Also check your main relay. i really don't see how it could have anything to do with your distributor if you know you have spark.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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i am 98% sure that all of my grounds are tight, i will go check now and let you know
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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have u tried jump startin or push startin the car?
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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make sure your TPS and MAP sensors are not mixed up....
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92eg4me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also check your main relay. i really don't see how it could have anything to do with your distributor if you know you have spark.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the main relay goes out, he wont have fuel. He said he does, so its not that.

I would like to know if you have actually checked the firing order, done a compression check, and checked your cam timing.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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yes... like I said earlier... this could easily be firing order... please check that.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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check that all sensors are hooked up tight: knock sensor if epuipped. definately the grounds important you try pulling the plugs and checking spark on the engine block you probably did also its very possible that from trying to start it for so long that you fouled the plugs buy a cheap set to see if fouled out...
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BALLIN H22 EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">injector or resistor box... bad dizzy.... bad battery </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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i know that the plugs were fouled out, i took them out and cleaned them up, then let them dry. i put them back in and my car still did not start
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