For all of you that have swapped either an ITR or GSR (b18c1) motor into your car, what did you do. Here are my questions:

I am using my YS1 Cable tranny, so no questions about that.

1. Did you convert to obd1? if so, what all did you convert? (distributor, injectors) What about the throttle body? My 92 GSR has the Map senson on the firewall. What should I do? Will the JDM ITR Throttle body match up completely with everything? or what will I have to do? or would it be easier for me to bore my B17 throttle body to ITR specs, or upgrade to an aftermarket throttle body?

2. For all of you that are using the JDM ITR throttly body, did you have to change the throttle cable?

3. What else do I need to look into before doing the swap? i want to have everything ready for the swap.

thanks.

 

why 92 93... what if i have a 91 with a swap?

 

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than you are not qualified to answer any of these questions.

 

lol.. ok.. you're included too!

if you can answer these questions, please do.

 

have you tried pm'ing ChaseIntegra?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For all of you that have swapped either an ITR or GSR (b18c1) motor into your car, what did you do. Here are my questions:

I am using my YS1 Cable tranny, so no questions about that.

1. Did you convert to obd1? if so, what all did you convert? (distributor, injectors) What about the throttle body? My 92 GSR has the Map senson on the firewall. What should I do? Will the JDM ITR Throttle body match up completely with everything? or what will I have to do? or would it be easier for me to bore my B17 throttle body to ITR specs, or upgrade to an aftermarket throttle body?

2. For all of you that are using the JDM ITR throttly body, did you have to change the throttle cable?

3. What else do I need to look into before doing the swap? i want to have everything ready for the swap.

thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, i actually went LS/Vtec but im using a 2000 gsr head...

1.)yes i did convert up to obd1, i used hondata, and converted the entire harness, including injectors. just use the map sensor that comes with the gsr/type r throttle body, doesnt matter where its mounted, it will still work, does yours use a vacumn line? it will be fine.

2.)in a DA.. its a pain in the *** with a gsr throttle.. dunno exactly how the ITR throttle is, but the gsr throttle body opens backwards from the LS, thus the cable goes around the other side of the intake manifold, and you need a longer cable.
possible options... get an aftermarket throttle body which will open either way, use your stock ls cable and bracket, or you could use your LS throttle body, and sacrifice a little air flow... or just deal with the sticky gas pedal you will experience with the gsr throttle body.

3.)Not sure exactly what swap your going with or what you will need, but just search and read up on what others have done in there swap and make sure your bases are covered... goodluck and hope this was helpful

Edit: I just realized you have a GSR DA... arent those already obd1?
Just use your b17 throttle body, im sure it will be fine..

 

I am swapping in an JDM ITR motor.

yes I have a 92 gsr. it is obd1.

Will my throttle cable not reach around the back of the intake manifold to work with the JDM ITR Throttle body? Or should I just change to a USDM ITR Throttle body which is the normal way infront of the throttle body.

 

ok, i've never seen an engine bay of a type r or a db2 gsr.. but here is a pic of the type r engine bay



Take note of how the throttle cable goes.. i was wrong; it is the same as an LS. Do you have a picture of your engine bay, to see how your cable goes? If the b17 gsr throttle bodies are the same as the b18c1 throttle bodies where the bracket mounts on the throttle body, then your cable will not work, it will be too long, but if it looks like this, where it comes around the front side of the manifold, and the bracke mounts ont he manifold, your cable will be fine.

EDIT:

Ok i think i found a picture of a b17 (its a rare motor, hard to find pictures of it, but i believe this is one)


According to this picture, it looks like the b17 throttle cable works the same as the ls and type r (thus the b18c1 throttle body=gayness )

Your throttle cable and throttle brackets will work just fine

 

look at the engine swap guide on g2ic.com

 

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I have. Daily. But it does not address my question.

Well on the JDM ITR throttle body, the cable goes behind the intake manifold. Here is a picture of what I am talking about. Unless this throttle body not a ITR but maybe a GSR? Can anyone confirm this?

 

and here is my 92 gsr with the b17 (stock setup)

 

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i will now.. thanks. i take it he should know.

 

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Yup. He has a 92-93 DA with a JDM-R swap.

 

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I have. Daily. But it does not address my question.

Well on the JDM ITR throttle body, the cable goes behind the intake manifold. Here is a picture of what I am talking about. Unless this throttle body not a ITR but maybe a GSR? Can anyone confirm this?




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ok if that is a stock type r setup, then you will need to either use a type r throttle cable, or use your throttle body, b/c your throttle cable will be too short for that style throttle bracket (also by the way with that style it is going to rub on your hood, and give you a sticky throttle response )

 

I have never seen a throttle body/cable route like that before. I just wanted to know what it is? it doesnt look like any ITR throttle body.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spectrum24x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok if that is a stock type r setup, then you will need to either use a type r throttle cable, or use your throttle body, b/c your throttle cable will be too short for that style throttle bracket (also by the way with that style it is going to rub on your hood, and give you a sticky throttle response )</TD></TR></TABLE>

The T/B with the throttle cable routed behind the manifold is a GSR T/B.

The ITR T/B and throttle cable is routed the same way as on the B17.

 

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The T/B with the throttle cable routed behind the manifold is a GSR T/B.

The ITR T/B and throttle cable is routed the same way as on the B17. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I knew it was like that on GSR just never seen an ITR to say, thats why i bolded the "if thats a stock setup"


So your cable will work fine, as i said long before

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For all of you that have swapped either an ITR or GSR (b18c1) motor into your car, what did you do. Here are my questions:

I am using my YS1 Cable tranny, so no questions about that.

1. Did you convert to obd1? if so, what all did you convert? (distributor, injectors) What about the throttle body? My 92 GSR has the Map senson on the firewall. What should I do? Will the JDM ITR Throttle body match up completely with everything? or what will I have to do? or would it be easier for me to bore my B17 throttle body to ITR specs, or upgrade to an aftermarket throttle body?

2. For all of you that are using the JDM ITR throttly body, did you have to change the throttle cable?

3. What else do I need to look into before doing the swap? i want to have everything ready for the swap.

thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

1. my car was already pbd1, and u dont use the firewall map sensor but extend the plug and plug it in the tb, itr tb will go right in probs if u extend the wires from the map on the firewall to the tb.

2.i used a stock gsr tb and ls/itr pulley and i used the stock throttle cable and it works fine

3. if u get a gsr make sure u get a aftermarket manifold because the stock one sucks..

 

alright.. well then that is a GSR throttle body. and if that is the case, then im now worried that the motor is a JDM GSR engine with an aftermarket intake manifold. Because why would someone change the ITR throttle body to a GSR?

 

I don't know if this will help but I have a b16b in one of my tegs pretty much a straight swap as long as you have a type r throttle bracket, anyother parts you need to make it work like the clutch cable stays you should be able to get from a 92-93 gsr to make fit. there is also a company that makes an adapter so you can use your stock map sensor "just looks like a peice of metal that take the place of the map sensor on the throttlebody and runs a vaccuum line to the map sensor that is on the firewall" I was using a td44u dizzy but switched to a msd distributor. I am was also using a p30 ecu but switched to a p28 chipped with hondata.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright.. well then that is a GSR throttle body. and if that is the case, then im now worried that the motor is a JDM GSR engine with an aftermarket intake manifold. Because why would someone change the ITR throttle body to a GSR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is stamped on the head?

 

not sure yet.. he hasnt gotten me any pics of the stamp yet..

 

i got a 93 with a 97 GSR and basically when i got the motor it was already converted to obd1..... the b17 tranny definately would be a good choice. for a while i was runnin a b16 y1 but my diff blew out so right now im in the process of actually lookin for a tranny. but with the throttle cable, my gs cable (or ls basically the same thing) works its just a little lose. but other than that its legit... go for it man