hey guys

i am looking to drop my car, a nice simple functional drop, no tucking.

eibachs "moderate" lowering kit

or

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/HPK201 which lowers 1.5

with either drop, will i have to purchase a camber kit? or will i be ok? also, how much wheel gap will i be looking at with a 1.5 in drop?

thanks

 

Rarely is a camber kit "required" since the negative camber from lowering a car is not a bad thing. Assuming you lower your car relatively evenly, you aren't going to have any seriously ****-eyed camber, and the negative camber you do get is beneficial to handling.
On the other hand, out-of-spec toe isn't something you typically want, and you should aim to have 0 total toe after any suspension work is done. That can be accomplished with an alignment.
Pass on the camber kit, you won't be needing it with what you're looking to do.

 

alright, thanks for the info. i just didnt want premature tire wear, but i guess that goes for the toe.

 

when i had my car dropped 3 inches on stock everyhting, i had very minimal inside tire wear so yours shouldnt matter really

i do have a camber kit now tho cause i upgraded to gsr brakes

 

lol 3 inches... wow, do you have a pic?

 

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hhhmmmm.

3 inches is a big drop... i would want a camber kit if I had lowering springs, since you don't have any customization in how much the car drops or sags...

with ground controls on my civic dropped a little higher than half way, a camber kit would be nice.

Tire wear is present mostly from autocross and track days
The inside wears on street driving.

 

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Tire wear is present mostly from autocross and track days
The inside wears on street driving.
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Have you had an alignment done? What are your settings? I have over 2* of neg camber (pretty low, need GC tophats to extend shock travel), and still scrub the outside of the tires on track days, so I could still use more camber; and have no inside wear issues at all.

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I'm not sure what you mean by that, but being dropped that low, he probably has other things to worry about besides camber issues.

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My camber isn't even on the car due to a hack-job of corner balancing and no camber kit. Doesn't really make a difference as long as you get toe set to 0.

 

You NEED a camber kit only when you're getting to the point where you need to adjust camber specs to modulate the turn-in and cornering abilities of the car. Of course you can help the turn in by setting the front toe out a bit but this will eat through tires much faster.

 

3" isn't always a lot on some cars, considering my stock '90 sedan coils were compressed 4-5" to fit onto a stock shock.

You only need a camber kit if the alignment numbers for camber are drasticly different from each other, or if you are really trying to dial your car in. Its the toe-in/out that makes the difference. Not just in wear, but in handling. Mine with made strange pounding noises the few days it was toe-out after the drop, then toe-in with the steering rack replacement. Both REALLY affect the car over bad roads, the one with slightly less traction lets the other steer the car around the road.