Alright, I know how much I loved watching other people's builds when I was parting my own togther, so I might as well finally contribute something to this community that has served me pretty well so far...

<U>The Setup:</U>

B18A block (Hot-tanked, decked, painted, bore'd 0.25mm over, honed)
89mm crank (micropolished and balanced)
ACL main, rod, and thrust bearings
Stock rods w/ ARP rod bolts
P30 0.25mm OS pistons
ITR main caps (2, 3, 4)
ITR block girdle
ITR oil pump (new), water pump (new)
GSR timing belt
All new gaskets/seals
Golden Eagle 82mm LSVTEC kit

PR3 head from 2000 Civic Si (Hot-tanked, planed, painted)
Skunk2 valvesprings, retainers, cam gears
Stock cams
No port/polish
All new seals

ACT HD/SS
ACT StreetLite flywheel
S4C transmission
DriveShaftShop Stage 1 axles

AEBS intake manifold
Password:JDM intake manifold gasket
AEM fuel rail (not that it really does anything...)
RC 370cc injectors
65mm JG/Edelbrock throttlebody
AEM cold-air intake
DC Sports JDM 4-1 header (2.5" collector w/ skidplate welded onto bottom)
MSD SCI
NGK Iridium plugs
Test pipe
DC Sports catback

Tuned with Crome by 93turbo16 ( http://www.j-k-tuning.com )

<U>The Results:</U>

175 whp @ 7800 RPM
129 wtq

<U>What I Should Have Checked:</U>

Well, see where it says "stock cams" up there? They were sold to me as Skunk2 Stage 2's by another member here on H-T. Turns out I got scammed, and didn't know it until I hit the dyno and laid down some low numbers with a really low VTEC x-over point. Call me crazy, but I've never seen S2S2's want VTEC at 5000 RPM.

So in the end, I paid $350 for some stock B16 cams. I suppose I should have measured them before I got rid of my S2S1's.

<U>What Just Arrived in the Mail today:</U>

A brand-spanking-new set of Skunk2 Pro2+'s straight from Justice Racing in Maryland.

<U>Now onto what you all clicked for, the pictures:</U>

P30's in their new home


New engine sitting in it's bay


...And finally, the dyno sheet (sorry for the low-quality, used cell phone camera for all photos)


<U>Conclusion:</U>

After the new cams, and a re-tune, I hope to see at least 190whp. 200whp would be stellar, but I'm not getting my hopes up. A nice 13.99-second pass would be nice, too, but then again, it's just a wish.

All in all, I'm pleased with the build so far. At 350 miles, I've burnt a little oil, and smoked a little, but nothing compared to my old beat B16 used to. Plus, the torque seems to be everywhere compared to my 1.6-liter.

Any comments/questions are welcomed.

Thank you Honda-Tech,
- Derek

<U>UPDATE!!! - 12/12/05</U>

On Saturday, December 10th, I attended a dyno competition at Dynamic Motorsports in Dillsburg, PA. I've been very anxious to see how much of a difference those big *****'ing cams made compared to stock B16 cams.

Here's the results:



Take a look at the air/fuel ratio! Keep in mind that this was just a 'quick' A/F tune on the street about a month or so ago. I called my tuner, 93turbo16, and he claims my goal of 200whp may be in sight with some timing adjustment, and a little more air/fuel tuning on the dyno.

Also, as a side note, I'd like to thank Honda Bull for approximating my torque curve. For some reason, my car wasn't delivering a tach signal on the dyno, so he cleverly figured the numbers out pretty closely to what we believe to be a ROUGH estimate of the torque. So, please excuse the ghetto-rigged torque curve on there.

For that reason, I will not give an official torque output number.

<U>NEW RESULTS:</U>

192.73 whp

Thanks again, and happy holidays!
- Derek


Modified by D-Rob at 3:34 PM 12/12/2005

 

congrats. looks like a nice street setup. With a nice header and the cams, i see 200whp well within reach. With Portwork to the head. I see 225whp attainable. I made 210 untuned WHP with a very similar setup, some porting, smsp header, and Pro 1 cams.
-Francisco

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RPRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">congrats. looks like a nice street setup. With a nice header and the cams, i see 200whp well within reach. With Portwork to the head. I see 225whp attainable. I made 210 untuned WHP with a very similar setup, some porting, smsp header, and Pro 1 cams.
-Francisco</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the encouragement.

One thing I neglected to mention is that I have a bet with a friend of mine that doesn't think an NA LSVTEC can make upwards of 185whp.

He works for a shop that claims LSVTEC's period 'don't work,' so when I laid down 175whp, I was content. Later I found out those cams weren't what I had thought they were. So now my friend will be eating his words, hopefully.

- Derek

 

people always underestimate LSVTEC...congrats on the numbers, im sure they will improve a bunch with the S2 cams
what is your buget like so far? excluding the stock cams you bought

 

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what is your buget like so far? excluding the stock cams you bought</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh my... Way too much.

The machine shop bill alone was $750.

I'll have to make a tally and add onto the first post.

 

sounds good, and i really wouldnt be suprised if you hit 200 whp or a 14 flat for that matter..my car ran a 14 flat with all season tires:S

 

Could you get some more pics of the skidplate welded on. Im guessing its the Mr. Heeltoe/fastline performance one

 

u will be in the high 13's for sure , nice setup

 

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One thing I neglected to mention is that I have a bet with a friend of mine that doesn't think an NA LSVTEC can make upwards of 185whp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Get the head PnP & install your new SK2's..then go collect from your freind.

 

dude that sux that you got scammed for cams... 300 bux for b16 cams ouch! good numbers considering the major bottleneck though (the cams)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Expletive Your Sister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could you get some more pics of the skidplate welded on. Im guessing its the Mr. Heeltoe/fastline performance one </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I had a friend cut, bend, and weld me on a flat piece of steel onto the bottom of it. I had no idea HeelToe had one... No kidding.

Here's a picture:


Thanks for the support, everyone.
- Derek

 

 

nice setup. get those cams in and get a new dyno up ASAP!

 

Sucks to hear about your cams. Good luck on hitting your goals.

 

you made some weak power ? what gives

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WeekH22#2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you made some weak power ? what gives</TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you smoking?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RPRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are you smoking?</TD></TR></TABLE>

just get an H22?

 

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just get an H22?</TD></TR></TABLE>

How 'bout no?

I think I made pretty good power on stock B16 cams, if I say so myself.

<U>UPDATE:</U>

Got the new cams in last night, and fired it up. The idle's a little shaky at high idle right now, but I'm not going to be driving it until my tuner gets here Saturday.

 

Subscribed. Damn LS/VTECs.

 

keep us updated... i would like to see what power it makes wit the cams in. nice street set-up

 

 

<U>UPDATE:</U>

Sweet Lord, she idle's like poo.

I had to turn the screw under the throttlebody to even get it to remotely resemble a stable idle.

Drove it down to get gas, and at every stoplight it wanted to shut off.

Looks like she needs some tuning.

 

mine was tuned by jim@motorvations in alabama... he said he got 195whp out of an ls/vtec the week before me... i think he was using s2s2's

get those cams and it should put you up there... my only regret is not using ctr pistons... i'm sure that would've kicked the hp in its ***.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A brand-spanking-new set of Skunk2 Pro2+'s straight from Justice Racing in Maryland.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet Lord, she idle's like poo.
I had to turn the screw under the throttlebody to even get it to remotely resemble a stable idle.
Drove it down to get gas, and at every stoplight it wanted to shut off.
Looks like she needs some tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, she does. Big primary lobes on those cams. Good luck.

 

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<U>What Just Arrived in the Mail today:</U>

A brand-spanking-new set of Skunk2 Pro2+'s straight from Justice Racing in Maryland.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aren't those cams meant for bigger motors?