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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:35 AM
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Has anyone else used the Energy Motor Mount Inserts ? Do the ever settle ? It feels like im riding on a rider mower becuase the mounts are sooo stiff now it vibrates the whole kar. Does this sound right ?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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The engine's vibrations will always be felt in the car.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:46 AM
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Those with sensitive buttocks may want to consider an alternative - such as an engine damper intead.....
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those with sensitive buttocks may want to consider an alternative - such as an engine damper intead..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

So politically correct
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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mine does the same **** too vibration.... but i love it!!!!! stiffins the motor.....
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:21 AM
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Did you use all 3 motor mounts (including the bitch'n tranny)? If you only switched the 2 easy ones, it will vibrate even more
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:25 AM
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i'm using 3 motor mount inserts and 2 tq mount inserts..

my car vibrates like no other.. if u come to a stop or an idle.. everything inside the car; starting from the steering wheel to the soda in the cup holder starts shak'n

so my suggestion is.. just get the 2 side motor mount inserts(which u will feeel a huge difference), and don't do the rear.. unless u want your car too vibrate more and have an stiffer engine of corse.

and i know people will be asking me.. why do u have the tq mount inserts when u allready have all 3 motor mount inserts in ?

it's my kahhhh.. &lt;--- my answer
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ivicr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone else used the Energy Motor Mount Inserts ? Do the ever settle ? It feels like im riding on a rider mower becuase the mounts are sooo stiff now it vibrates the whole kar. Does this sound right ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

&lt;-- has all 3 (thanks Dan )

I believe Opie has/did have the same ones also. The added vibration/throttle response is nothing but an improvement in my mind. Why would you want them to "settle"? That's defeating the purpose of installing them to begin with. No offense, but what did you expect to happen after they were installed?

EDIT: *11,000th post*
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ivicr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> mounts are sooo stiff now it vibrates the whole kar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now, the girls will love it when they ride in your car!
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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i didn't know how much it was gonna vibrate. I had already gone through a couple of sets of stock motor mounts... I personally don't mind. I like to be able to feel the kar, but it is a daily driver and i just wanted to see how it was in other itR's. And for the above comment, i changed every motor mount insert.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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I have all three motor mounts installed. Really, the only time I notice vibration is while I'm stopped at idle. Otherwise, it's business as usual.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=178918 - mount insert review......

How does the prothane inserts sound/feel with the ES kit in as well? It is ****** loud. On start up and initial warm up (1500 rpm) it sounds and feels like your inside a drum. Everything shakes and rattles. The steering wheel, the dash, my head, everything. The mirror vibrates. I had to take all the junk out of my ashtray. The door pannels hum. It is ridiculous. I love it (for now, anyways).

At warmed up idle it's not that bad. Kind of feels like sitting in my buddys big block 68 Chevy, but a faster less severe vibration. Through my race bucket it feels like I'm sitting on a back massager on its lowest settin. On the freeway cruising at 4500 in 5th it feels like I have a vibrator up my ***. Kind of pleasent, actually.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Dunno about that pleasent last part but other than that, that's what I expect from them.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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If you think those inserts create vibrations...check these out:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1179416


Modified by ebelp at 7:55 AM 10/28/2005
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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I already have the prothane kit installed by my mechanic.

I'm planning to install the ES kit (by myself) as well. With the ES kit, I don't need to use the rear mount since I already have the the prothane one. Am I right? I just want to confirm.



Also, what do you guys recommend to kit the stock mounts? will simple green works?




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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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i need to put my set in asap.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01SILVERDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i need to put my set in asap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the prothane, me too
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SamC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I already have the prothane kit installed by my mechanic.

I'm planning to install the ES kit (by myself) as well. With the ES kit, I don't need to use the rear mount since I already have the the prothane one. Am I right? I just want to confirm.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yes, do NOT use the ES rear mount inserts as they aren't as stiff as the prothane ones.....
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SamC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also, what do you guys recommend to kit the stock mounts? will simple green works?</TD></TR></TABLE>


whaaaaaat?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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i would just use an engine damper also....
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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haha...I meant... what do you guys use to "Clean" the stock engine mount? would simple green works?
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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I was just wondering what the point is because I have a kit too for my car just wondering what benefits are truly gained.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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The benefits are obvious. Stiffer mounts keep the drivetrain in its place. This allows you to maintain proper geometry during violent launches.

NVH is a bitch, but if you want the highest performance, you just have to deal with it.

In my case, the vibration makes my brain itch, so I just think about sandpaper and it goes away.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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May have to do it then.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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When i follow the link the install the driver side ES mount

http://www.hazone.com/hmtrmount.htm

I couldn't lower the engine. It said to loosen the 2 17mm bolt. I assuming it's the 14mm ones on the top engine mount. But when I loosen it, the engine doesn't goes down/drop. (I've already installed the prothane mount). What can I do to lower the engine to install the ES mount?



Would I need to loosen the 2 14mm bolt (red) and also loosen the (green) side bolt in order to loosen the engine?

any help would be great.



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