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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Ok I got my intake today and instead of fully installing it I just installed it to be a short ram. I did this as we have been getting lots of rain around here and I figured going through puddles it would be better having the filter in the engine bay.

Well will I notice any differnce in power if I put the rest on and have the filter behind the bumper or is it so minimal that I wont be able to tell?

Also this thing is loud as fawk will it sound the same or get quieter or what if I put the rest of it on? Any way to quiet this thing down a little? My exhaust is quite loud infact too loud and when I hit vtec I can't even hear the exhaust over this thing screaming. I like it overall but this is almost enough to make me want the stock one back.

It also seems to go into redline a lot quicker and being an auto it used to shift right before redline now it goes slightly into redline is that just how I'm driving or would the intake mess with that?
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Longer pipe could only bring slightly cooler air... which could only improve something... ..but I doubt you could have any extra horse power other than what you just got by having a short ram intake...
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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just like your doc says you wont feel a thing ,,,, well a little discomfort when your engine is sucking up water
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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as far as the noise is concerned, yes a CAI is quieter than a short ram since the noise tend to go outside the engine bay. I convert my CAI to a short ram every winter to prevent snow buildups on the filter and the sound is louder and deeper.

as for the diffrence in HP, no dyno can prove that since the car isnt moving. You would have to test it on a 1/4 mile for example, but i doubt it would do anything... you would probably get better time after a few runs, but only because the car is getting ligter in gaz
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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The Intake is annoyingly loud at first, but after a while youll get used to it, and love it.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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the pipe vibrating is the sound of the intake, it resonates thats just what they do,what type do you have? and i dont know about autos but the power bands top end is around 5700 rps, red line it and you get slower times . just some food for thought,,,,,,,,,, but i guess you cant control the engine from topping out at red line with an auto when you punch it go get a traneee swap would be my suggestion
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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I find pointless a hooked up car with auto tranny.... but.. if that's all you got... then yeah.. ...gotta do what you gotta do son....
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Whoever asked it is a K&N Typhoon CAI. I got this as it was down to this or the Injen for me as I wanted it to be street legal and have a carb sticker and I could get a pretty good deal on this one through a family discount from a family member working at a store that sells them.

Basically I really want a manual tranny but don't want to swap out a perfectly good transmission but if this one dies that may be the route I go definately what I would like to do. I have a "hooked up" auto because It is my DD since gas has gotten soo expensive my truck that gets 8mpg on middle grade or premium fuel doesn't like regular isn't cutting it anymore but I miss the V8 power and feel of it so I'm trying to get a little more power out of this thing so I like driving it more plus I needed a new air filter anyway so got this instead of just a drop in filter.


I'm not complaining about it accelerating faster what I don't like is that it doesn't seem to shift right before redline like I think it should it goes into the red before it shifts I would prefer it to shift about 6k rpms right before going into redline. It didn't seem to do that before but it might have. It does seem to accelerate a little faster on the top end doesn't seem to have done much to the low end.

The noise doesn't seem to be any differnt at low rpm's but when it hits vtec this thing gets loud my exhaust is loud around 3k rpm's but seems to mellow out slightly when it hits vtec I liked this well now I can't even hear it over this thing although it isn't too bad I just hope I don't get pulled over for it being too loud.


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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Another thing I found a little odd is that revving it up just sitting there it doesn't seem much louder just when going down the road but I guess it is ok.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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hey man i have a 96 accord EX with an AEM cold air intake and K&N filter. everything your talking about is normal. mine gets really loud at v-tec, but i've never had a problem with cops. my car has all the same sounds even like you said just sitting in neutral and revving it, but you have to remember your car isn't propelling anything in idle, just revving so its not going to sound the same as when it has a load on it. and trust me you will love the sound it makes after a while. i thought it was kinda loud at first but i love the way it sounds now, especially under bridges and next to cars when passing them. also your air may be a little cooler if you let it go all the way to the bottom, mine is like that. i don't think it will make a difference in your performance though, but i like the idea of cooler air. it also may not sound as loud down at the bottom outside of your engine bay. as far as rain is concerned it really isn't that big of an issue, atleast hasn't been for me. just don't try running into any deep puddles and if there is a lot of water on the road don't floor it where the intake will be sucking air in as hard as it can causing you to suck in water. for most this isn't even a problem though because there has to be a considerable amount of water for you to have a problem with it, but better to be safe than sorry.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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well i am lucky then and i got a nice cop
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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damn dude what is up
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Hondabum4life, damn man, I'm not trying to follow you around or pick on you... but DAMN.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondabum4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just like your doc says you wont feel a thing ,,,, well a little discomfort when your engine is sucking up water </TD></TR></TABLE>

Anyone here ever just 'sucked up water' in their daily commute?? Stay off the lake, and use bridges to cross rivers and you'll be fine.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondabum4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the pipe vibrating is the sound of the intake, it resonates that's just what they do,what type do you have? and i don't know about autos but the power bands top end is around 5700 rps, red line it and you get slower times . just some food for thought,,,,,,,,,, but i guess you cant control the engine from topping out at red line with an auto when you punch it go get a traneee swap would be my suggestion </TD></TR></TABLE>

Um... just wrong. Resonating, YES! Vibrating, no. As for powerbands, 99% of the accords here will have no need of knowledge of their powerbands in reference to shifting. Even if it were a manual, your Honda will pull harder in the lowest possible gear for the speed you're traveling. (3000 rpms and up) Just because you drop a few horses after 5500-5600rpms doesn't mean the next gear up will pull harder.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondabum4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i love the sound, it scares little old ladys and that makes it worth it for me ! and the cops wont pull you over for it being loud, just when your racing and a cop hears you and thinks that your going faster than you really are.it happened to me but i talked my way out of it , i just said that i was still doing the speed limit, they cant give you a ticket for accelerating fast. report back in a week or two and tell us what you think </TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately for me, you're wrong again. It's called an improper start. I can e-mail you a picture of my ticket if you do not believe me. For those of you saying 'my state doesn't have that', then you will just get a wreckless driving ticket. But with fines of $500+, point reductions if applicable, or just loss of license, a 'wreckless driving' ticket is no joke.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondabum4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn dude what is up </TD></TR></TABLE>

And for Christ's sake, stop that or you'll be reported for post whoring!
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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well man i live in oregon so that **** happens just driving to work. and dont worry i dont take anything on honda tech personal so say what ever you want as for the dude whats up post its for my brother he thinks i took his car for a joy ride. and maybe you should look up what resonating is "a VIBRATION of large amplitude in a mechanical or electrical system," thats from webster on line but if you want to report for post whoring wouldnt this be considered one<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by low430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See what Im saying Hondabum4life, Your just post whoring BS
AF accord PWNED yOu</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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I'm glad you don't take these as a personal attack. But honestly, your posts are of no informational value, your ideas are ignorant, your comments are misleading and your membership to this site is proving to be unbeneficial to anyone but for the entertainment of your brother.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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damn dude you didnt even answer the question, i did, i gave him some food for though, you just came in thinking that you know it all with out contributing **** well your a hypocrite you dont even know that vibrating is a synonym for resonating so GTFO you ignorant **** head
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Resound being the base word for resonating. You might look that one up on your Dictionary.com You might find reverberate, but I doubt you'll find anything that says 'vibrate.' You were right, only when you said resonating because only THEN would you have been addressing his question about the intake's SOUND.

If you feel like blowing something up, then go play with your tinker toys. You don't have to do it here. My recommendation would be that you go play in traffic.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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on the subject matter, Your butt dyno will not notice a loss or gain in power, but you will notice an increased amount of engine noise during WOT. Sounds good but Can be addictive which has an adverse affect on gas mileage
You will have better throttle response but the warm air from the engine bay will counteract the HP, you will lose power down low and possibly gain some in top end.
all these gains and losses are minor.



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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondabum4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yo i know its hard for you to stop being a jack ***, but stop posting no one cares</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually Im sure the Thread creator does care that's why I tried to help. now you are just wasting space talking trash on a Technical Message board, considering you have near no mechanical skill or technical know how, Its best if you keep your narrow minded opinions and comments 2 yourself.

EDIT Ill translate that into lamens terms for you hondabum4life:
Lurk more Post less
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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i remember hearing sumwhere that u can get a ticket for going from a dead stop to speed limit within a given amount of distance(sumwhere around like 40 feet or sumshyt) haha, dunt know how legit that statement is though
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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why cant we be friends.....why cant we be friends.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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lots of words but all you said was what i said first, are little fight does not need to be taken on to HT, so let it go. you fucked up, and now you lost a good friend because of your ignorance.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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how u get a ticket for that, cant u jus say excuse like i missed a gear or somethign.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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he has no idea what he is talking about you can always get a way with stupid **** like that hes just pissed that cops never give him any brakes
edit: who gives a **** how you spell, get over it


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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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if a woman cries. does she always get away with a warning. if a man cries.....???
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