Killed clutch fast.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:35 PM
  #1  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Killed clutch fast.

Resently on my build i picked up an action 6 puck unsprung and used my act xd pd. This pp was only on my car for 1500 miles with a street strip disc and was find when i took it off the car. So i figured it was alright. I also have a cm flywheel with like 10k on it (unboosted) it looked fine, no burn or grooves. Well with 1000 mile on my motor, i go to the track and run my first run kinda hard (15lbs) In 4th gear it feels like either my tires are slipping or my clutch. I run a 13.6, which seems alittle high for my setup. I run again and the same **** happens, 13.6 with increddible slippage in 4th and 5th. I let off and turn to get my ticket. Now the clutch barely engages. I had enough meat to get me home (like an hour drive) and tare it out. The clutch is completely distroyed. Its missing material on both sides of the puck. There is also alot of blue heat distortion on the flywheel and pp. What would cause my clutch to **** so fast? I havent dynoed my car yet but i think im around the 350 mark. Could of the clutch been adjusted too tight?

setup
b16a benson/cp/manely rods t3/t4
gsr tranny (hydro) quiafe lsd 205/40/r16 tires/ autozone axels
Act pp action 2m unsprung 6 puck cm flywheel

its a crx with the hasport cable to hydro conversion, the clutch also grabs around the middle of the pedal. And was pretty easy to street.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:21 AM
  #2  
Sketch_hs's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,273
Likes: 0
From: Elk Grove, CA, USA
Default

was it hard to shift? draging? releasing slowly so it just sliped?

air in the clutch line?

slave/master cylinders okay?

that sucks!, what kind of clutch are you going to get now?
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:23 AM
  #3  
wantboost's Avatar
Who is Mr Robot?
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,474
Likes: 10
From: ATL - Where the Pimps and Players dwell
Default Re: (Sketch_hs)

heh, yet another action failure. thank god im using a twin plate
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:43 AM
  #4  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (Sketch_hs)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">was it hard to shift? draging? releasing slowly so it just sliped?

air in the clutch line?

slave/master cylinders okay?

that sucks!, what kind of clutch are you going to get now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i shifted fast but it wasnt hard getting into gears, i have no slave/master its a hasport conversion so i run a cable to the hydro tranny. I wonder if it was too tight and had the clutch partial engaged

pics will be up soon
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:56 AM
  #5  
drumking15's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,933
Likes: 1
From: northern, ma, US
Default

i woudl assumed that be your problem...

ive had a action PP and act 4puck unsprung disk...and i dump it at 15lbs yesterday...and all it does is grab...then of course the tires break loose!
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:04 AM
  #6  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (drumking15)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i woudl assumed that be your problem...

ive had a action PP and act 4puck unsprung disk...and i dump it at 15lbs yesterday...and all it does is grab...then of course the tires break loose!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, u could be right

i found on ht a act 4 puck with pp for 275 wiht a type r flywheel, if i dont do this i have an act street strip disc to get me around unitl a have enough for a twin disk.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:22 AM
  #7  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: Killed clutch fast. (Boosted Chemist)

pics, could i re use the pp with my street disc to get me by? The reason i ask is i just moved to Buffalo and still havent found a job yet







Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:47 AM
  #8  
Mr. Vapor's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,523
Likes: 0
From: GO LEAFS GO, NY, USA
Default Re: Killed clutch fast. (Boosted Chemist)

ouch dude...hope you can figure it out....car looked mean as hell ripping down the track though!

-Tim (Rode down with Phil in his D-turbo)
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:56 AM
  #9  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: Killed clutch fast. (Mr. Vapor)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Vapor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ouch dude...hope you can figure it out....car looked mean as hell ripping down the track though!

-Tim (Rode down with Phil in his D-turbo)</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a street strip disc i think im going to throw in, we will see.

I was suprized how fast the tranny came out, like 1 1/2 with no room, gotta love the crx's
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:25 AM
  #10  
nsxmatt's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,309
Likes: 1
From: Indiana
Default Re: (wantboost)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heh, yet another action failure. thank god im using a twin plate</TD></TR></TABLE>

From the looks of the clutch and his setup, it wasn't a clutch issue. The thing wore out from not being adjusted right. Your "twin plate" would have worn out the same way in his car..
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:30 AM
  #11  
m R g S r's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 9,555
Likes: 0
From: NYC bitchessss
Default Re: Killed clutch fast. (Boosted Chemist)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">setup
b16a benson/cp/manely rods t3/t4
.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you copied me, and your in ny, that means we have to run
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:48 AM
  #12  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (nsxmatt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

From the looks of the clutch and his setup, it wasn't a clutch issue. The thing wore out from not being adjusted right. Your "twin plate" would have worn out the same way in his car..</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah you are right, but i wanna make some nice power and eventually go with the twin disk.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you copied me, and your in ny, that means we have to run </TD></TR></TABLE>

where u at man?
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:23 AM
  #13  
wantboost's Avatar
Who is Mr Robot?
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,474
Likes: 10
From: ATL - Where the Pimps and Players dwell
Default Re: (nsxmatt)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

From the looks of the clutch and his setup, it wasn't a clutch issue. The thing wore out from not being adjusted right. Your "twin plate" would have worn out the same way in his car..</TD></TR></TABLE>

not with a hydro tranny
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 12:27 PM
  #14  
*Boostwerks*'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 9,455
Likes: 3
From: I heart tool, US
Default

I havn't had any issues with my Action 6 puck setup. You might want to see if the action disks have a different thickness than the ACT discs. If there is a difference of only a couple mms, that would be the difference between slip, and grip.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 01:13 PM
  #15  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: (Bryson)

My ACT XX pp and ACT 6 puck started slipping in less than 500 miles, im not too impressed with ACT's XX pp.
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 03:40 PM
  #16  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (wantboost)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

not with a hydro tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a hydo tranny but is cable operated, hasport convesion for old *** efs
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:39 PM
  #17  
LeGeND4LiFe's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default Re: (Boosted Chemist)

Damn that sucks dude...maybe it was defective and contact action for a warranty replacement?

Which track did you go to, Leicester? I'm in Buffalo, holla
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 06:29 PM
  #18  
Sketch_hs's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,273
Likes: 0
From: Elk Grove, CA, USA
Default

get rps carbon carbon!

you should drive that clutch. it's so awesome!!!

but costs a bit!
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:13 PM
  #19  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (LeGeND4LiFe)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LeGeND4LiFe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn that sucks dude...maybe it was defective and contact action for a warranty replacement?

Which track did you go to, Leicester? I'm in Buffalo, holla</TD></TR></TABLE>
i went to genoseo (sp) yeah im in ub, pretty cool up here but i cant find any fellow turbo hondas around my area.

we need a buffalo meet lol<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get rps carbon carbon!

you should drive that clutch. it's so awesome!!!

but costs a bit!</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much for that clutch?
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2005 | 07:43 PM
  #20  
LeGeND4LiFe's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 707
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default Re: (Boosted Chemist)

I'm in UB too, there's alot around, there's a few nice local forums too. Hit me on aim pacslegendz
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:27 AM
  #21  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (LeGeND4LiFe)

i threw in my act ss dics and sander out the burns on my pp and it works well. I adjusted my clutch so it grabs low (not engaging while driving) I also turned the boost down to 10psi. I was out and hit second and couldnt tell if my tires are burning or its the clutch. Why cant i get the clutch to hold? am i doning something wrong with the adjustement?
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:59 AM
  #22  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: (Boosted Chemist)

it could be that your flywheel is warped. My clutchmasters flywheel was gone after about 10k miles and It ate away my RPS clutch within 5k miles. Now I gotta find out why my ACT XX PP and 6 puck clutch, plus ACT streetlite flywheel decided to slip after only 500 miles. If its a warranty issue I will probably just sell it after I get it replaced and buy an exedy carbon single.

Also the RPS Carbon Carbon is like 2500
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:25 AM
  #23  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (95GSRTT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it could be that your flywheel is warped. My clutchmasters flywheel was gone after about 10k miles and It ate away my RPS clutch within 5k miles. Now I gotta find out why my ACT XX PP and 6 puck clutch, plus ACT streetlite flywheel decided to slip after only 500 miles. If its a warranty issue I will probably just sell it after I get it replaced and buy an exedy carbon single.

Also the RPS Carbon Carbon is like 2500</TD></TR></TABLE>

was the flywheel it self warped or that plate that can be replaced?
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:28 AM
  #24  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: (Boosted Chemist)

the plate was, probably from the flywheel not being taken off properly.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:36 AM
  #25  
Boosted Chemist's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,760
Likes: 0
From: Dark Side of the Moon
Default Re: (95GSRTT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the plate was, probably from the flywheel not being taken off properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no being taken off properly? please explain. Did you fix your fw or toss it?
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:47 PM.