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While my search for a new suspension goes on I was at my friends dealership the other day while they were PDI'ing a S2000. S2000's are shipped from the factory with spring rubbers so that the car wont have any probs getting on/off the truck. I noticed the considerable drop in height after they took them off and lowered the car to the ground.

Since I had my caR the *** end has been considerably lower than the front(Eibach springs w/stock shocks). I decided to give these things a try.

Not hard to install. Raised the rear, took off the wheels, sprayed silicone on the rubbers and pressed them onto the spring. Visually the car is much higher now then it was, maybe a bit too high. Mechanically the car is considerably stiffer in the rear. Ride comfort is the same as before just with a bit more stiffness.

I used 3 rubbers on each side and feel that it was a great temporary fix. These will not be on the car for a long time, just for the time it takes me to find the "right" suspension.

I did a search on these things this morning and didn't come up with too much info. Has anyone ever tried these before? I know I can't be the first.... I have a few extras if anyone wants to give them a try. I'm sure you could go to your nearest Honda dealership and get them from a mechanic.





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Modified by walker111 at 11:24 AM 9/9/2005

 

Jim are spring rubbers different from the rubbers you would use in say the winter? summer?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jim are spring rubbers different from the rubbers you would use in say the winter? summer? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Smartass

 

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wow i didnt realise honda shiped S2Ks with those... probally becasue i've never done PDA on one

 

honda also specifically advises to NEVER DRIVE THE CAR WITH THOSE INSTALLED. they are NOT for normal road use and can cause serious injury or death.

 

There are rubber things for sale over here in europe that raise the car, theyre wound like a coil and fit in between 3 or 4 coils to prevent them compressing. I know people that have used them if they were taking a lowered car on a ferry/boat and had clearance issues, but as far as i know theyre fine for using every day if you wish

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SecretAgent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda also specifically advises to NEVER DRIVE THE CAR WITH THOSE INSTALLED. they are NOT for normal road use and can cause serious injury or death. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Where did you get that from? And why would you say that? For normal driving I couldnt see why they are so unsafe, on a track I could see that they wouldnt be too reliable. But causing you to crash and die, not likely.

Once again I am not using these permanently. I have put over 240 miles on the car since putting them on with no ill effects. These have not been too spirited miles but have tested them out a little....

Jim

 

You want an even load on the spring - if 1/2 falls off, it might cause damage by putting pressure on a select part of the spring/shock - but it sounds like a rare event.

 

I would be very trepidacious about employing something honda uses for shipping purposes only as a modification on a daily driver or track car.

 

You are lowering your spring travel by essentially increasing the length of your bumpstops. If you hit a pot hole or undergo rapid compression you will feel it through the chassis. These rubbers are only used during transport of the vehicle and do not offer any performance advantage. I can't believe you put them on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markpaco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are lowering your spring travel by essentially increasing the length of your bumpstops. If you hit a pot hole or undergo rapid compression you will feel it through the chassis. These rubbers are only used during transport of the vehicle and do not offer any performance advantage. I can't believe you put them on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wish people would actually read what I wrote.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would be very trepidacious about employing something honda uses for shipping purposes only as a modification on a daily driver or track car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So by tepid you mean mild spring or mild fall?

 

LOL, are you serious?

i cannot believe im reading this. i don't think i know anyone who would actually use these to raise their car. probably the same people that would cut their springs for the opposite effect.

 

glad to know some people understand where honda is coming from.

 

Nice fix, just make sure that is only temporary!

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tweakmeister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So by <u>tepid</u> you mean mild spring or mild fall?</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://dictionary.reference.com/

 

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http://dictionary.reference.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was a joke mate

 

yeah.. these are exactly the kind of tips we want our impressionable youth / f&f fanbase reading...

i feel the urge to slam my shizznittttt y0 and cut my springs now

 

spring rubbers?.....soo....in other words....suspension condoms....ok gotcha

 

Again temporary fix!!!! Maybe you guys can not read but I'll say it again, This was not a performance mod, nor a permanent one. I saw them, thought they were something to try, then tried them. I posted on H-T to get your opinion. Not to talk to me like I'm a dumb-***. These thing have been on my car for over 1000 miles, with absolutely no ill effects. Could something happen, of course, but I could also be driving down the road and a ball joint fail, crash into a wall and die. Life's a bitch and then we all die. You live you learn.

I had to look that word up

That's why we get opinions from people on H-T. Everyone can say how they feel about them from personal experience or just word on the street. What gets me is getting statements from the peanut gallery!!!! That have no clue what they are talking about.

It is ordering suspension next week, thanks.

Yes seriously, out of all the stupid **** we see on Honda-tech and you think this is so outrageous. You don't know me personally, but you know from H-T, so now you can say you do know someone that tried this......

And no I would never cut my springs to lower my car.

Again wasn't put on for performance. I did put them on and they haven't caused any probs. Liked your comment, thanks. But I said from the beginning that they weren't put on to make my car hug turns like WhAt.

Yes, rare event but anything could happen. I am totally aware of what "could" happen. But thanks for the feedback

 

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Yes seriously, out of all the stupid **** we see on Honda-tech and you think this is so outrageous. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i would not post stuff like this, no. why? same reason as posting incorrect mounting of harnesses, or anything else that is incorrect and possibly unsafe. do you want to be responsible for someone doig what you did and having something bad happen? b/c there are dumb enough people on this forum, a lot of them, who will follow your lead and do this b/c you and others said there is little/no chance of something bad happening. i personally wouldn't want that on me.

your responses dont make any sense to me, and your comparisions to ball joints, etc, are completely illogical. its the same as that argument that 'everyone has street raced once' so no one can say anything bad about it.

they weren't meant for driving conditions, there are reasons why, and if you honeslty feel that you are doing something 'wise' and well thought out... well... have fun.

 

My head asplode.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's why we get opinions from people on H-T. Everyone can say how they feel about them from personal experience or just word on the street. What gets me is getting statements from the peanut gallery!!!! That have no clue what they are talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

who are you to say we dont know what we are talking about? i think there are pretty legitimate concerns about doing something like this. you've reasoned yourself to believe that there is little/no chance of anything bad happening - but your reasoning, pardon me, sucks.

YOU are the one who put little pieces of rubber between your springs to raise your car.


Modified by Chris N at 12:55 PM 9/12/2005

 

So Jim are these rubbers better in spring, winter or summer

Dave who's trying to break up some of the ice here in this thread. Guys anything can happen, and Chris that post reminds me of the good ol" If so and so jumped of a cliff would you follow. Now that's not really pointed at you as much as the people who just do things because others do them.