vdub08

I went to a local wheel and tire shop today for an alignment. My main concern was my camber and they told me if i did not have a camber kit, they could not do anything about the camber because my car is too low. would that be possible? my car is not even that low, its dropped about 1.5 inches

EK k kay

Our cars are not camber adjustable without an aftermarket camber kit. With a 1.5 inch drop I wouldn't even worry about camber. Just let them set the toe to factory spec and you're good.

slammed_93_hatch

they can't change your camber no matter what height your car is at, your camber on a stock ej1 is determined by height.


why are you worried about camber, camber DOES NOT eat tires aggressivly. search for threads there are alot of them

AutoXer

But you still need an alignment. Have the toe set to 0, not 'in spec'.

94eg!

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Like everyone else said, just have the shop zero out the front & rear toe settings. Extra negative camber (tires tipped inward at the top) is good for performance applications, and can actually help keep your tires from wearing out on the outter edges if you enjoy "spirited" driving...

vdub08

ive been looking at teh ignalls setups and i have to say, im a bit overwhelmed. what am i supposed to buy to adjust the camber both front and back?

EK k kay

Doesn't sound like you read any of the replies above. You're dropped 1.5", **** the camber kit and get it aligned.

vdub08

nah i read them dude, and i already got the alignment. but i still have 3 degrees of camber on the front end and 2 degrees of camber on the back, and if i can fix it why not?

94eg!

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tofu9000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nah i read them dude, and i already got the alignment. but i still have 3 degrees of camber on the front end and 2 degrees of camber on the back, and if i can fix it why not?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because it aint broke stupid!!!

pingaturbo

look bro you need a camber kit no matter what. because everything in that car will start to fall in just put youself in 6in high heels and see how that feels that's what your car is going through right now so i recommend the camber ball joints for the front and the easy arm for the rear if you want to be cheap just washers in the rear who ever tells you not to worry about camber does not know what they are talking about take this from a guy who lowers cars all day long YOU DO NEED A CAMBER KIT it will save you money in the long run when you start replacing your tires evey 3-6 months you will know what i mean about saving money there is also camber bolts and other things out there but I HIGHLY RECOMMeND CAMBER BALL JOINTS. Depending on the vehicle.

94eg!

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look bro you need a camber kit no matter what. because everything in that car will start to fall in just put youself in 6in high heels and see how that feels that's what your car is going through right now so i recommend the camber ball joints for the front and the easy arm for the rear if you want to be cheap just washers in the rear who ever tells you not to worry about camber does not know what they are talking about take this from a guy who lowers cars all day long YOU DO NEED A CAMBER KIT it will save you money in the long run when you start replacing your tires evey 3-6 months you will know what i mean about saving money there is also camber bolts and other things out there but I HIGHLY RECOMMeND CAMBER BALL JOINTS. Depending on the vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your being rediculous. First off, your a guy who SELLS camber kits, so your information is already biased. Second, I've had my civic lowered 2.5"+ for 5 years 50k+ miles with no adverse tire/suspension wear (even my OEM shocks looked like new when I swaped them out for Koni's 1k miles ago). My previous set of tires went about 35k+ miles (BFG Euro TA), and my current set (Dunlop FM-901) have no uneven wear whatsoever. So take my advise for what it's worth. You can believe someone with experience or a camber kit salesman...

AutoXer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look bro you need a camber kit no matter what. ... YOU DO NEED A CAMBER KIT it will save you money in the long run when you start replacing your tires evey 3-6 months </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you need an alignment no matter what. I'm running over 2* of camber front and rear on my DD and weekend racer. I've had snow tires that have lasted 30K, summer tires (Yoko ES100s) for about 30K and just replaced my race tires after a season of DD on them, and one season trailered to the track (about 20K). The snows and summers are still going with about 30-40% tread left with no uneven wear.

You may lower cars all day long, but you obviously don't align them properly if customers are going through sets of tires. Even with a camber kit, you still need to get the car aligned or else you'll have the same problem.

slammed_93_hatch

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pingaturbo

Look there Mr AUTOXER if you look at my profile you can see that the owner of the store I work at owns a Mazda 6 Touring car, so we can do any alignment on the market, your the type of guy that drops a car and the customer comes back for wearing tires. So if you need an alignment let me know and let me tell you one more thing we don't get comebacks, we fix your problems. We just don't sell stuff just to sell, we sell it because the vehicle will need it!!!!!!!!!!!!

ohjolt2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look there Mr AUTOXER if you look at my profile you can see that the owner of the store I work at owns a Mazda 6 Touring car, so we can do any alignment on the market, your the type of guy that drops a car and the customer comes back for wearing tires. So if you need an alignment let me know and let me tell you one more thing we don't get comebacks, we fix your problems. We just don't sell stuff just to sell, we sell it because the vehicle will need it!!!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe you just suck at alignments and cant get the toe to zero. Also how the **** do you get three degrees of camber from a measly 1.5 inch drop? seems like that to much.

kameleon23

Most people think that lowering your car affects your camber...therefore causing your tires to wear unevenly. But its not the camber wear, because when you lower the car it throws off the toe, not just the camber. Listen to ohjolt2, and some of the others on here who have had experience. I have 2.5 degrees negative camber front and back right now...no signs of uneven wear in the last 28000 miles, because i had my toe adjusted when i lowered my car.

vdub08

alright then im convinced

AutoXer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pingaturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your the type of guy that drops a car and the customer comes back for wearing tires. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I do my own alignments. I have toe plates, camber gage, laser levels, etc; so I am able to do alot of experimenting with my setup. When I was around 1.5* of camber, I was able to run 1/8" toe out up front, which is optimal for me while autocrossing.

When I dropped the car more (between 2.5-3* of camber), I set the toe to 1/16" and headed to the track the next day. With that much camber, 1/16", while still within spec, was a bit too much. I had gotten a touch of feathering on the inside of the tire by the time I got to the track. I set the toe to 0 for the ride home, and I have not had a problem since.

I now bring my toe plates with me to the track, so I run 0 on the street, and more toe out depending on the course. While at the track, since the car is in transition more often than not, I have yet to see any feathering or uneven wear on my race tires.

pingaturbo

Hey OHJOLT2 I would imagine you are stationed in Camp Lejuene NC just by looking at your profile. If you ever get stationed at Camp Pendleton come by my job so you can get your car aligned ok JARHEAD. Oh by the way if you have any questions I did serve in Marine Corps 8 years. Laterz shower shoe

ohjolt2

This explains why you cant do an alignment with zero toe.